From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1MeACS-0004rh-DC for mharc-grub-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:09:16 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MeACQ-0004r0-Q4 for grub-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:09:14 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MeACK-0004ov-Ff for grub-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:09:12 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=32811 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MeACK-0004oq-7H for grub-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:09:08 -0400 Received: from xvm-190-8.ghst.net ([217.70.190.8]:41157 helo=aybabtu.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MeACJ-00009C-Ht for grub-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:09:07 -0400 Received: from [192.168.10.10] (helo=thorin) by aybabtu.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MeACF-0002mX-IK for grub-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 18:09:03 +0200 Received: from rmh by thorin with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MeACC-0006zf-GV for grub-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 18:09:01 +0200 Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 18:09:00 +0200 From: Robert Millan To: The development of GRUB 2 Message-ID: <20090820160857.GA10903@thorin> References: <4A8BDB5B.5000407@labri.fr> <200908191425.29202.michael@gorven.za.net> <20090819144232.GD4210@thorin> <20090819201645.GH3561@mammon.mene.za.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Organization: free as in freedom X-Message-Flag: Worried about Outlook viruses? Switch to Thunderbird! www.mozilla.com/thunderbird X-Debbugs-No-Ack: true User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Subject: Re: TPM support status ? X-BeenThere: grub-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: The development of GRUB 2 List-Id: The development of GRUB 2 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:09:15 -0000 On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 10:27:59PM +0200, Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko wrote: > >> It could mean you can't read a book unless you use their designated > >> non-free > >> reader (with DRM restrictions, etc). > > > > So use a different bank and a different publisher. > How many record labels will not jump on occasion of an efficient DRM? > How many banks will resist the temptation to say "we're more secure > because of TPM" And I forgot to mention tax filings, which may also end up preventing free software from being used to file taxes. Likewise for many other tasks that citizens can't avoid. So, just move to another state and use a different IRS? -- Robert Millan The DRM opt-in fallacy: "Your data belongs to us. We will decide when (and how) you may access your data; but nobody's threatening your freedom: we still allow you to remove your data and not access it at all."