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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Paul Menage <menage@google.com>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	bblum@google.com, ebiederm@xmission.com, lizf@cn.fujitsu.com,
	matthltc@us.ibm.com
Subject: Re: + cgroups-add-functionality-to-read-write-lock-clone_thread-forking-pe r-threadgroup.patch added to -mm tree
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 15:09:52 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090822130952.GA4240@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6599ad830908211637w6c9fd3a7tbe41bc106ada03d7@mail.gmail.com>

On 08/21, Paul Menage wrote:
>
> On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 3:45 AM, Oleg Nesterov<oleg@redhat.com> wrote:
> > In case I wasn't clear.
> >
> > Let's suppose we have subthreads T1 and T2, and we have a reference to T1.
>
> In this case, T1 is also the thread group leader.

You forced me to take a look at the next patch,
cgroups-add-ability-to-move-all-threads-in-a-process-to-a-new-cgroup-atomically.patch
which uses this helper ;) please see below.

> And we hold tasklist_lock around the entire operation. (So the
> rcu_read_lock() call is probably a red herring - Li Zefan already
> suggested that it be removed).

Yes, rcu_read_lock() is not needed under tasklist to iterate over
->thread_group.

> But you're saying that could still be a problem if tsk exits  before
> we even get to this point?
>
> My impression was that if the thread group leader exits, it hangs
> around (still attached to its thread group list) until all its threads
> have exited.

Yes, unless the non-leader execs, in this case the leader can die before
sub-thread, the execing thread becomes the new leader.

IOW. Yes, ->group_leader dies last, but exec can change ->group_leader.

> In which case as long as we're holding tasklist_lock, the
> thread group list should remain valid.

Only if it was valid before we take tasklist.



OK, cgroups-add-ability-to-move-all-threads-in-a-process-to-a-new-cgroup-atomically.patch
does

	threadgroup_sighand = threadgroup_fork_lock(leader);

	rcu_read_lock();
	list_for_each_entry_rcu(tsk, &leader->thread_group, thread_group)

and this is equally wrong afais. Hmm, and other similar
list_for_each_entry_rcu's doesn't look right. This code can do something
like

	rcu_read_lock();
	if (!tsk->sighand)	// tsk is leader or not, doesn't matter
		fail;
	list_for_each_rcu(tsk->thread_group) {}
	rcu_read_unlock();

though.



And why do we need sighand->threadgroup_fork_lock ? I gueess, to protect
against clone(CLONE_THREAD).

But. threadgroup_fork_lock() has another problem. Even if the process
P is singlethreaded, I can't see how ->threadgroup_fork_lock work.

threadgroup_fork_lock() bumps P->sighand->count. If P exec, it will
notice sighand->count != 1 and switch to another ->sighand.

Oleg.


  reply	other threads:[~2009-08-22 13:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-08-20 21:14 + cgroups-add-functionality-to-read-write-lock-clone_thread-forking-per-threadgroup.patch added to -mm tree akpm
2009-08-21 10:26 ` + cgroups-add-functionality-to-read-write-lock-clone_thread-forking-pe r-threadgroup.patch " Oleg Nesterov
2009-08-21 10:45   ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-08-21 23:37     ` Paul Menage
2009-08-22 13:09       ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2009-08-22 13:28         ` Paul Menage
     [not found]         ` <20090822130952.GA4240-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-01-03 19:06           ` Ben Blum
2010-01-03 19:06             ` Ben Blum
     [not found]             ` <20100103190613.GA13423-OM76b2Iv3yLQjUSlxSEPGw@public.gmane.org>
2010-01-03 19:07               ` [RFC] [PATCH 1/2] cgroups: read-write lock CLONE_THREAD forking per threadgroup Ben Blum
2010-01-03 19:07                 ` Ben Blum
     [not found]                 ` <20100103190752.GB13423-OM76b2Iv3yLQjUSlxSEPGw@public.gmane.org>
2010-01-05 18:53                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-01-05 18:53                 ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                   ` <20100105185330.GA17545-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-01-17 20:48                     ` Ben Blum
2010-01-17 20:48                       ` Ben Blum
2010-03-22 10:22                       ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                         ` <20100322102247.GA8363-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-22 23:57                           ` Paul Menage
2010-03-22 23:57                         ` Paul Menage
     [not found]                       ` <20100117204833.GA29596-DC+BO+AtSRVCM1neWV3AGuCmf2DRS9x2@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-22 10:22                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-01-03 19:09               ` [RFC] [PATCH 2/2] cgroups: make procs file writable Ben Blum
2010-01-03 19:09                 ` Ben Blum

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