From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>,
Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>,
James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] perf_counter: Default to higher paranoia level
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 09:37:11 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090824073711.GA26637@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1251098962.7538.143.camel@twins>
* Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 16:21 +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > * Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
>
> > > diff --git a/include/linux/perf_counter.h b/include/linux/perf_counter.h
> > > index 9ba1822..2b0528f 100644
> > > --- a/include/linux/perf_counter.h
> > > +++ b/include/linux/perf_counter.h
> > > @@ -439,6 +439,7 @@ enum perf_callchain_context {
> > > struct perf_callchain_entry {
> > > __u64 nr;
> > > __u64 ip[PERF_MAX_STACK_DEPTH];
> > > + int restricted;
> > > };
> >
> > i'd love to have something more specific here - i.e. a context type
> > ID that identifies these basic types:
> >
> > - process
> > - softirq
> > - hardirq
> > - NMI
> >
> > and then let it be up to upper layers to decide what they do with a
> > restricted entry, and how to further process this information.
> >
> > And it's not just security: for example it would be interesting to
> > sample pure, non-irq overhead - as IRQ overhead is often unrelated
> > to the process being measured.
>
> Yes it is, this is purely about not showing some data. If you
> don't want to sample IRQ stuff that's something else, we'd have to
> grow that capability in hardware (like the OS/USR bits) or put
> perf enable/disable hooks into the irq entry/exit hooks (which
> doesn't sound all too hot an idea to me).
>
> Simply not showing the call-trace is something all-together
> different from not profiling it.
Well, it's not about not profiling it - it's about being able to
_separate out_ the samples from the various contexts.
Right now we already have context separators for call-chains:
PERF_CONTEXT_HV = (__u64)-32,
PERF_CONTEXT_KERNEL = (__u64)-128,
PERF_CONTEXT_USER = (__u64)-512,
PERF_CONTEXT_GUEST = (__u64)-2048,
PERF_CONTEXT_GUEST_KERNEL = (__u64)-2176,
PERF_CONTEXT_GUEST_USER = (__u64)-2560,
All i'm suggesting is to also have these context separators:
PERF_CONTEXT_KERNEL_HARDIRQ
PERF_CONTEXT_KERNEL_SOFTIRQ
PERF_CONTEXT_KERNEL /* syscall level */
So that if user-space wants to visualize just a portion of it, it
can do it.
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-08-24 7:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-08-19 9:18 [PATCH 0/4] perf counter bits Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-19 9:18 ` [PATCH 1/4] perf_counter: Default to higher paranoia level Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-19 14:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-19 16:04 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-08-20 12:00 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-21 14:21 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-08-24 7:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-24 7:37 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2009-08-19 9:18 ` [PATCH 2/4] perf_counter: powerpc: Support the anonymized kernel callchain bits Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-19 13:30 ` [tip:perfcounters/core] perf_counter: powerpc: Support the anonimized " tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-19 9:18 ` [PATCH 3/4] perf tools: Check perf.data owner Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-19 13:32 ` [tip:perfcounters/core] " tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-19 9:18 ` [PATCH 4/4][RFC] perf_counter: Allow sharing of output channels Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-19 10:58 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-08-19 11:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-19 12:41 ` Paul Mackerras
2009-08-19 12:36 ` Paul Mackerras
2009-08-19 12:56 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-08-19 12:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-19 13:00 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-08-20 10:13 ` stephane eranian
2009-08-20 10:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-20 10:28 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-08-19 16:19 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-08-19 16:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-19 16:27 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-08-25 7:39 ` [tip:perfcounters/core] " tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
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