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From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Hendrik Brueckner <brueckner@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Jason Baron <jbaron@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@elte.hu,
	laijs@cn.fujitsu.com, rostedt@goodmis.org, jiayingz@google.com,
	mbligh@google.com, lizf@cn.fujitsu.com,
	Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>,
	Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 08/12] add trace events for each syscall entry/exit
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 15:01:08 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090826190108.GA1895@Krystal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090826184236.GA24102@infradead.org>

* Christoph Hellwig (hch@infradead.org) wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 02:41:16PM -0400, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > We do not support system calls from kernelspace anymore.  All the
> > macros to do real system calls are gone, and there are very very few
> > places left calling sys_foo as normal function calls.
> > 
> > An how exactly is calling sys_foo as a normal function call different
> > from calling do_foo or vfs_foo?
> 

Not very different, no. But the fact is that we would not be
instrumenting do_foo nor vfs_foo because we would somehow expect all
callers to go through a system call, which ain't always true.

> And if you really need to trace direct callers of sys_foo just put
> a jprobe on it.
> 

Yep, that would do it. Getting the arguments of the function upon entry
and the return value on exit is pretty much all we need.

But I would like to ensure that we do not duplicate the instrumentation
done by the generic syscall instrumentation neither, so we don't end up
having:

syscall_entry X (args)
do_X (args)
do_X return (return value)
syscall_exit X (return value)

If I am not mistakened, the current execution paths are:

>From userland:

syscall -> sys_X() -> do_X()

>From the kernel:

do_X()

Adding a trampoline taken only when the kernel is doing the call might
be useful there to selectively trace calls made by the kernel.

Mathieu

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  reply	other threads:[~2009-08-26 19:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-08-10 20:52 [PATCH 00/12] add syscall tracepoints V3 Jason Baron
2009-08-10 20:52 ` [PATCH 01/12] map syscall name to number Jason Baron
2009-08-10 20:52 ` [PATCH 02/12] call arch_init_ftrace_syscalls at boot Jason Baron
2009-08-10 20:52 ` [PATCH 03/12] add DECLARE_TRACE_WITH_CALLBACK() macro Jason Baron
2009-08-10 20:52 ` [PATCH 04/12] add syscall tracepoints Jason Baron
2009-08-10 20:52 ` [PATCH 05/12] update FTRACE_SYSCALL_MAX Jason Baron
2009-08-11 11:00   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-08-11 19:39     ` Matt Fleming
2009-08-24 13:41     ` Paul Mundt
2009-08-24 14:06       ` Jason Baron
2009-08-24 14:15         ` Paul Mundt
2009-08-24 14:34           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-08-24 14:37             ` Paul Mundt
2009-08-24 14:42           ` Jason Baron
2009-08-24 14:50             ` Paul Mundt
2009-08-24 18:34               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-08-10 20:52 ` [PATCH 06/12] trace_event - raw_init bailout Jason Baron
2009-08-10 20:52 ` [PATCH 07/12] add ftrace_event_call void * 'data' field Jason Baron
2009-08-11 10:09   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-08-17 22:19     ` Steven Rostedt
2009-08-17 23:09       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-08-18  0:06         ` Steven Rostedt
2009-08-10 20:52 ` [PATCH 08/12] add trace events for each syscall entry/exit Jason Baron
2009-08-11 10:50   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-08-11 11:45     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-08-11 12:01       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-08-25 12:50   ` Hendrik Brueckner
2009-08-25 14:15     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-08-25 16:02       ` Hendrik Brueckner
2009-08-25 16:20         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-08-25 16:59           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-08-25 17:31             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-08-25 18:31               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-08-25 19:42                 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-08-25 19:51                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-08-26  0:19                     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-08-26  0:42                       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-08-26  7:28                         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-08-26 17:11                           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-08-26  6:48                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-25 22:04                 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2009-08-26  7:38                   ` Heiko Carstens
2009-08-26 12:32                     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-08-26  6:21                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-26 17:08                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-08-26 18:41                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-26 18:42                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-26 19:01                         ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2009-08-26  7:10                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-26 17:10                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-08-26 17:24                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-08-25 17:04           ` Jason Baron
2009-08-25 18:15             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-08-26 12:35         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-08-26 12:59           ` Heiko Carstens
2009-08-26 13:30             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-08-26 13:48               ` Steven Rostedt
2009-08-26 13:53                 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-08-26 14:44                   ` Steven Rostedt
2009-08-26 13:56                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-26 14:41                   ` Steven Rostedt
2009-08-26 14:10               ` Heiko Carstens
2009-08-26 14:27                 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-08-26 14:43                   ` Steven Rostedt
2009-08-26 16:14                     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-08-26 14:43                 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-08-26 14:41           ` Hendrik Brueckner
2009-08-28 12:28         ` [tip:tracing/core] tracing: Don't trace kernel thread syscalls tip-bot for Hendrik Brueckner
2009-08-25 21:40     ` [PATCH 08/12] add trace events for each syscall entry/exit Frederic Weisbecker
2009-08-25 22:09       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-08-26  7:47         ` Heiko Carstens
2009-08-28 12:27     ` [tip:tracing/core] tracing: Check invalid syscall nr while tracing syscalls tip-bot for Hendrik Brueckner
2009-08-10 20:52 ` [PATCH 09/12] add support traceopint ids Jason Baron
2009-08-11 11:28   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-08-10 20:53 ` [PATCH 10/12] add perf counter support Jason Baron
2009-08-11 12:12   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-08-11 12:17     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-08-11 12:25       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-08-10 20:53 ` [PATCH 11/12] add more namespace area to 'perf list' output Jason Baron
2009-08-10 20:53 ` [PATCH 12/12] convert x86_64 mmap and uname to use DEFINE_SYSCALL Jason Baron
2009-08-25 12:31 ` [PATCH 00/12] add syscall tracepoints V3 - s390 arch update Hendrik Brueckner
2009-08-25 13:52   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-08-25 14:39     ` Heiko Carstens
2009-08-25 19:52       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-08-25 15:38     ` Hendrik Brueckner
2009-08-26 16:53   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-08-27  7:27     ` [PATCH]: tracing: s390 arch updates for tracing syscalls Hendrik Brueckner
2009-08-28 12:27   ` [tip:tracing/core] tracing: Add syscall tracepoints - s390 arch update tip-bot for Hendrik Brueckner

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