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From: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
To: Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>
Cc: trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no, linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] NFS: Change default behavior when "sec=" is not specified by user
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 12:38:46 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090901163846.GJ22846@fieldses.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <73E8EAAF-9164-4F78-A9D4-1CC86A6A6255@oracle.com>

On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 12:29:30PM -0400, Chuck Lever wrote:
> On Sep 1, 2009, at 12:09 PM, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
>> And, sure, that'd be OK with me, and would probably be better than
>> adding another exception, so I'm OK with skipping #3.  (We definitely
>> shouldn't omit #2, though.)
>
> Seems straightforward enough, but...  Why are we doing this again?  It  
> still seems like non-standard behavior.  Are we simply attempting to  
> avoid the case where folks would get the "nobody" behavior unexpectedly 
> because of a mountd bug, or is there more to it?

That's all there is to it.  As I said:

>>>>>> 	2. In the absence of sec=, we should probably *not* choose
>>>>>> 	AUTH_NULL.  (All mountd's before 1.1.3 list AUTH_NULL first on
>>>>>> 	the returned list, so users with older servers may wonder why a
>>>>>> 	client upgrade is making files they create suddenly be owned by
>>>>>> 	nobody.) http://marc.info/?l=linux-nfs&m=125089022306281&w=2

> I'm just thinking of what the documenting comment might say, and perhaps 
> some explanation added to nfs(5).

"As a special case, to work around bugs in some older servers, the
client will never automatically negotiate auth_null; if auth_null is
desired, an explicit "sec=null" on the commandline is required."

Or something like that.

--b.

  reply	other threads:[~2009-09-01 16:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-09-01 14:31 [PATCH] NFS: Change default behavior when "sec=" is not specified by user Chuck Lever
     [not found] ` <20090901143012.3978.11441.stgit-RytpoXr2tKZ9HhUboXbp9zCvJB+x5qRC@public.gmane.org>
2009-09-01 15:05   ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-09-01 15:10     ` Chuck Lever
2009-09-01 15:18       ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-09-01 15:52         ` Chuck Lever
2009-09-01 16:09           ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-09-01 16:29             ` Chuck Lever
2009-09-01 16:38               ` J. Bruce Fields [this message]
2009-09-01 18:07                 ` Chuck Lever
2009-09-01 18:21                   ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-09-01 18:25                   ` Trond Myklebust
     [not found]                     ` <1251829540.18608.31.camel-rJ7iovZKK19ZJLDQqaL3InhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2009-09-01 18:28                       ` Trond Myklebust
     [not found]                         ` <1251829737.18608.34.camel-rJ7iovZKK19ZJLDQqaL3InhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2009-09-01 18:35                           ` Trond Myklebust
2009-09-01 18:58                       ` Chuck Lever
2009-09-01 19:31                         ` Trond Myklebust
     [not found]                           ` <1251833479.18608.69.camel-rJ7iovZKK19ZJLDQqaL3InhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2009-09-01 19:33                             ` Trond Myklebust
2009-09-01 20:10                             ` Chuck Lever
2009-09-01 20:15                               ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-09-01 20:31                                 ` Chuck Lever
2009-09-01 21:22                                   ` Trond Myklebust
     [not found]                                     ` <1251840160.8463.20.camel-rJ7iovZKK19ZJLDQqaL3InhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2009-09-02 14:16                                       ` Chuck Lever
2009-09-01 18:33                   ` Peter Staubach
2009-09-01 18:50                     ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-09-01 18:52                       ` Peter Staubach
2009-09-01 19:16                         ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-09-01 19:24                           ` Peter Staubach
2009-09-01 20:05                             ` J. Bruce Fields

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