From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1MjFax-0003Ep-0F for mharc-grub-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Sep 2009 12:55:35 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MjFau-0003EB-V4 for grub-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Sep 2009 12:55:32 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MjFaq-0003CA-5Z for grub-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Sep 2009 12:55:32 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=41322 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MjFap-0003Bv-UJ for grub-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Sep 2009 12:55:28 -0400 Received: from xvm-190-8.ghst.net ([217.70.190.8]:45766 helo=aybabtu.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MjFap-00025B-Hh for grub-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Sep 2009 12:55:27 -0400 Received: from [192.168.10.10] (helo=thorin) by aybabtu.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MjFam-0005V8-O3 for grub-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Sep 2009 18:55:24 +0200 Received: from rmh by thorin with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MjFal-0000eZ-RS for grub-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Sep 2009 18:55:23 +0200 Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 18:55:23 +0200 From: Robert Millan To: The development of GRUB 2 Message-ID: <20090903165523.GA2504@thorin> References: <20090818175751.GA8971@thorin> <20090823120116.GP4130@thorin> <20090903142423.GE6656@thorin> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Organization: free as in freedom X-Message-Flag: Worried about Outlook viruses? Switch to Thunderbird! www.mozilla.com/thunderbird X-Debbugs-No-Ack: true User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Subject: Re: Enable pager by default for the help command X-BeenThere: grub-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: The development of GRUB 2 List-Id: The development of GRUB 2 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2009 16:55:33 -0000 On Thu, Sep 03, 2009 at 09:30:31AM -0700, Seth Goldberg wrote: > > > Quoting Robert Millan, who wrote the following on Thu, 3 Sep 2009: > >> On Wed, Sep 02, 2009 at 04:45:28PM -0700, Seth Goldberg wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I know I've been annoyed by this (as have many others I've talked to). >>> How about we enabling paging (set pager=1) automatically for the duration >>> of the help command, since it will inevitable scroll off of the screen >>> for console output devices with a limited number of lines? >> >> We can't do this, as it could make GRUB unexpectedly require manual >> assistance to boot in certain setups. > > Really? When is the help command executed as part of boot? I'm not > asking for pager to be set to 1 by default-- ONLY during the execution of > the help command. Ah, sorry I overlooked this part. Well, it wouldn't harm in help command, but I suppose other commands are in the same situation. Hopefully we could find a more generic solution instead? > This is a big dissatisfier with pretty much everyone I've talked to > who's needed help. Believe me, I'm annoyed by this problem too. -- Robert Millan The DRM opt-in fallacy: "Your data belongs to us. We will decide when (and how) you may access your data; but nobody's threatening your freedom: we still allow you to remove your data and not access it at all."