From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1MjXSB-0008Tw-DQ for mharc-grub-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Sep 2009 07:59:43 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MjXS8-0008SN-1g for grub-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Sep 2009 07:59:40 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MjXS1-0008Pi-U8 for grub-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Sep 2009 07:59:38 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=60942 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MjXS1-0008PE-H6 for grub-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Sep 2009 07:59:33 -0400 Received: from xvm-190-8.ghst.net ([217.70.190.8]:37543 helo=aybabtu.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MjXS0-0000Cr-U2 for grub-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Sep 2009 07:59:33 -0400 Received: from [192.168.10.10] (helo=thorin) by aybabtu.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MjXRz-0001bH-0i for grub-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Sep 2009 13:59:31 +0200 Received: from rmh by thorin with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MjXRy-0001nv-EI for grub-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Sep 2009 13:59:30 +0200 Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 13:59:30 +0200 From: Robert Millan To: The development of GRUB 2 Message-ID: <20090904115930.GB6825@thorin> References: <20090810114103.GG9344@thorin> <20090901114643.GB25290@thorin> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: Organization: free as in freedom X-Message-Flag: Worried about Outlook viruses? Switch to Thunderbird! www.mozilla.com/thunderbird X-Debbugs-No-Ack: true User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Subject: Re: Report: compil error on OSX for target=i386 X-BeenThere: grub-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: The development of GRUB 2 List-Id: The development of GRUB 2 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2009 11:59:40 -0000 On Thu, Sep 03, 2009 at 11:33:51PM +0200, Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko wrote: > > It's much easier to make official GCC a build requirement.  People hacking > > on GRUB source, or distributors (e.g. Fink) should have no problem with a > > dependency on GCC. > > > It won't do a lot of difference for people really wanting to compile > GRUB. However it makes entry barrier higher. I can't participate in a debate about an entry barrier which hasn't been explained. Installing GCC is a requirement, among others (autoconf, ruby, bison...) which are no problem at all on other platforms. Is there any reason why having build requirements is a problem on MacOS? If there is, how come this is not a problem for e.g. autoconf? Does installing GCC on MacOS require significant expertise that someone who wants to compile GRUB from source wouldn't be able to deal with? -- Robert Millan The DRM opt-in fallacy: "Your data belongs to us. We will decide when (and how) you may access your data; but nobody's threatening your freedom: we still allow you to remove your data and not access it at all."