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From: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
To: Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@redhat.com>
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
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	Ananth N Mavinakayanahalli <ananth@in.ibm.com>,
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	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	"Frank Ch. Eigler" <fche@redhat.com>,
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	"K.Prasad" <prasad@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Lai Jiangshan <laijs@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	Li Zefan <lizf@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Srikar Dronamraju <srikar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Tom Zanussi <tzanussi@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH tracing/kprobes 4/7] tracing/kprobes: Add event profiling support
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 23:07:13 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090914210712.GH6045@nowhere> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4AAE9B41.3020905@redhat.com>

On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 03:36:33PM -0400, Masami Hiramatsu wrote:
> Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
>> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 12:54:24PM -0400, Masami Hiramatsu wrote:
>>>>> I'd like to have a dispatcher function and flags internally :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You mean kprobes that could support multiple probes?
>>>> That would be a nice solution IMHO...
>>>
>>> Yeah, actually kprobes could support multiple probes on the
>>> same point. But kprobe structure has many extensions which
>>> kprobe-tracer doesn't need, e.g. post_handler/break_handler,
>>> opcode, arch sprcific instructions.
>>> Kretprobe consumes more memories for storing return points :(.
>>>
>>> Thus, if we know there are two functions to be called on the
>>> same probe point, I think it is better to have a dispatcher.
>>> (Especially, in this case, we can call fixed functions, so
>>> it's easier way.)
>>
>>
>> Yeah, you could union the post_handler with profile_handler
>> or something like that.
>
> No, you can't do that, because kprobes calls post_handler if
> it is not NULL.


Yeah, I was meaning: having the normal probe call ftrace handler
and post probe call perf handler.
But well, that looks not that sane (your dispatch idea looks fine).


>>
>> It depends if kprobes may need one day to support an undeterminate
>> number of probes.
>
> Kprobes itself is supporting those multiple kprobes on the same
> address. I meant that we don't need to have multiple kprobes on
> the same "kprobe-tracer's event". Even if introducing a dispatcher,
> kprobe-tracer can support multiple trace-event at the same location.


Yeah, I was not meaning several kprobes on the same address but
actually a single kprobe instance with multiple probe callbacks.

But your dispatch patch (sorry) does that in essence, though
specialized to the ftrace/perf couple but that's fine since nothing
else may need to have multiplexed probes.


>> Also, is the post_handler called at the same location than the normal
>> probe?
>
> No, post_handler is called after single-stepping.


Ok.


>
>> And is a post handler called even if there is no normal handler?
>
> Yes, it is.
>
> Hmm, I assume I have told about kprobes infrastructure, and have you
> told about kprobe-tracer?:)


No I was talking about kprobes in general :)



>> There might be some of such factors that would force you to handle a
>> lot of corner cases, things that you wouldn't need to worry about
>> if you just had to maintain a simple rcu list of probes to call.
>
>
> Anyway, I never see who are using post_handler:). I'm not sure why
> it is needed...


May be it's a legacy of code that was used by the past, in which case
that could perhaps be cleaned up?


  reply	other threads:[~2009-09-14 21:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-09-10 23:52 [PATCH tracing/kprobes 0/7] tracing/kprobes: kprobe-based event tracer update and perf support Masami Hiramatsu
2009-09-10 23:53 ` [PATCH tracing/kprobes 1/7] x86/ptrace: Fix regs_get_argument_nth() to add correct offset Masami Hiramatsu
2009-09-11  1:43   ` Steven Rostedt
2009-10-17  9:59   ` [tip:perf/probes] " tip-bot for Masami Hiramatsu
2009-09-10 23:53 ` [PATCH tracing/kprobes 2/7] tracing/kprobes: Fix probe offset to be unsigned Masami Hiramatsu
2009-10-17  9:59   ` [tip:perf/probes] " tip-bot for Masami Hiramatsu
2009-09-10 23:53 ` [PATCH tracing/kprobes 3/7] tracing/kprobes: Cleanup kprobe tracer code Masami Hiramatsu
2009-09-11  2:33   ` Daniel Walker
2009-09-11  2:36     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-10-17  9:59   ` [tip:perf/probes] " tip-bot for Masami Hiramatsu
2009-09-10 23:53 ` [PATCH tracing/kprobes 4/7] tracing/kprobes: Add event profiling support Masami Hiramatsu
2009-09-11  3:12   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-09-11 16:22     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-09-14  3:02       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-09-14 16:54         ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-09-14 18:55           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-09-14 19:36             ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-09-14 21:07               ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2009-09-15  4:52                 ` Ananth N Mavinakayanahalli
2009-09-11 19:30     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-09-14  3:08       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-09-13 10:07     ` [BUGFIX] kprobes: prevent re-registration of the same kprobe Ananth N Mavinakayanahalli
2009-09-14  1:47       ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-09-14 10:04         ` [BUGFIX] kprobes: prevent re-registration of the same kprobe - take2 Ananth N Mavinakayanahalli
2009-09-14 16:25           ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-09-15  5:13             ` Ananth N Mavinakayanahalli
2009-09-15 13:29               ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-10-17 10:02               ` [tip:perf/probes] kprobes: Prevent re-registration of the same kprobe tip-bot for Ananth N Mavinakayanahalli
2009-10-17  9:59   ` [tip:perf/probes] tracing/kprobes: Add event profiling support tip-bot for Masami Hiramatsu
2009-09-10 23:53 ` [PATCH tracing/kprobes 5/7] tracing/kprobes: Add argument name support Masami Hiramatsu
2009-09-11 14:07   ` Steven Rostedt
2009-09-11 16:11     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-09-11 16:32       ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-10-17 10:00   ` [tip:perf/probes] " tip-bot for Masami Hiramatsu
2009-09-10 23:53 ` [PATCH tracing/kprobes 6/7] tracing/kprobes: Show event name in trace output Masami Hiramatsu
2009-10-17 10:00   ` [tip:perf/probes] " tip-bot for Masami Hiramatsu
2009-09-10 23:53 ` [PATCH tracing/kprobes 7/7] tracing/kprobes: Support custom subsystem for each kprobe event Masami Hiramatsu
2009-10-17 10:00   ` [tip:perf/probes] " tip-bot for Masami Hiramatsu
2009-09-11  1:33 ` [PATCH tracing/kprobes 0/7] tracing/kprobes: kprobe-based event tracer update and perf support Frederic Weisbecker
2009-09-11  1:45   ` Steven Rostedt
2009-09-11 16:03   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-09-14  2:59     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-09-14 17:16       ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-09-14 20:52         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-09-14 21:10           ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-09-14 21:09             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-09-11 19:03   ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2009-09-11 19:06     ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-09-11 19:50       ` Mark Wielaard
2009-09-11 20:03         ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-09-12  1:23           ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-09-11 19:15     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-09-11 15:36 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-09-11 21:48   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-09-14  2:22     ` Frederic Weisbecker

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