From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1MrBV9-0004p4-2W for mharc-grub-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Sep 2009 10:10:23 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MrBV7-0004ne-Gm for grub-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Sep 2009 10:10:21 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MrBV4-0004k6-18 for grub-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Sep 2009 10:10:21 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=59834 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MrBV3-0004jv-LI for grub-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Sep 2009 10:10:17 -0400 Received: from xvm-190-8.ghst.net ([217.70.190.8]:40940 helo=aybabtu.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MrBV3-00065u-38 for grub-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Sep 2009 10:10:17 -0400 Received: from [192.168.10.10] (helo=thorin) by aybabtu.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MrBUd-0003BC-SB; Fri, 25 Sep 2009 16:09:52 +0200 Received: from rmh by thorin with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MrBUd-0001e7-0o; Fri, 25 Sep 2009 16:09:51 +0200 Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 16:09:51 +0200 From: Robert Millan To: Bron Gondwana Message-ID: <20090925140951.GA6318@thorin> References: <4ABBC1F5.70808@redhat.com> <20090924202146.GA16412@thorin> <20090924223810.GA2638@brong.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090924223810.GA2638@brong.net> Organization: free as in freedom X-Message-Flag: Worried about Outlook viruses? Switch to Thunderbird! www.mozilla.com/thunderbird X-Debbugs-No-Ack: true User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Cc: The development of GRUB 2 , Ric Wheeler , Chris Mason , The development of BTRFS Subject: Re: grub-0.97: btrfs multidevice support [PATCH] X-BeenThere: grub-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: The development of GRUB 2 List-Id: The development of GRUB 2 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 14:10:21 -0000 On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 08:38:10AM +1000, Bron Gondwana wrote: > On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 10:21:46PM +0200, Robert Millan wrote: > > > > Hi Edward, > > > > I'm sorry but GRUB Legacy is not maintained. At least not by us; we've > > deprecated it in favour of GRUB 2. > > > > It is also being abandoned by distributors, so I wouldn't recommend that you > > put any effort in developing for it. > > You've been spouting this line for years, and yet my Ubuntu 10.4 machine > uses, guess what, GRUB 1. Mainly because you deprecated GRUB Legacy[tm] > well before GRUB 2 was usable. > > (you in the generic sense of the GRUB project here) > > Edward - please do continue to develop patches for GRUB 1 (the one that > still actually works plenty well enough for lots of people) and ignore the > naysayers who are happy to throw out backwards compatibility. > > Sometimes you have to maintain crappy code because people out there depend > on it. And we thank those who step up and do it rather than throw their > hands up and pretend it doesn't need doing! I'm not telling anyone what should or shouldn't work with. But if you want to work on a branch we consider deprecated, please do it elsewhere. Discussion regarding GRUB Legacy is off-topic in this list. Thanks -- Robert Millan The DRM opt-in fallacy: "Your data belongs to us. We will decide when (and how) you may access your data; but nobody's threatening your freedom: we still allow you to remove your data and not access it at all." From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Robert Millan Subject: Re: grub-0.97: btrfs multidevice support [PATCH] Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 16:09:51 +0200 Message-ID: <20090925140951.GA6318@thorin> References: <4ABBC1F5.70808@redhat.com> <20090924202146.GA16412@thorin> <20090924223810.GA2638@brong.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: The development of GRUB 2 , The development of BTRFS , Chris Mason , Ric Wheeler To: Bron Gondwana Return-path: In-Reply-To: <20090924223810.GA2638@brong.net> List-ID: On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 08:38:10AM +1000, Bron Gondwana wrote: > On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 10:21:46PM +0200, Robert Millan wrote: > > > > Hi Edward, > > > > I'm sorry but GRUB Legacy is not maintained. At least not by us; we've > > deprecated it in favour of GRUB 2. > > > > It is also being abandoned by distributors, so I wouldn't recommend that you > > put any effort in developing for it. > > You've been spouting this line for years, and yet my Ubuntu 10.4 machine > uses, guess what, GRUB 1. Mainly because you deprecated GRUB Legacy[tm] > well before GRUB 2 was usable. > > (you in the generic sense of the GRUB project here) > > Edward - please do continue to develop patches for GRUB 1 (the one that > still actually works plenty well enough for lots of people) and ignore the > naysayers who are happy to throw out backwards compatibility. > > Sometimes you have to maintain crappy code because people out there depend > on it. And we thank those who step up and do it rather than throw their > hands up and pretend it doesn't need doing! I'm not telling anyone what should or shouldn't work with. But if you want to work on a branch we consider deprecated, please do it elsewhere. Discussion regarding GRUB Legacy is off-topic in this list. Thanks -- Robert Millan The DRM opt-in fallacy: "Your data belongs to us. We will decide when (and how) you may access your data; but nobody's threatening your freedom: we still allow you to remove your data and not access it at all."