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From: jamie@shareable.org (Jamie Lokier)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: arm_syscall cacheflush breakage on VIPT platforms
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 15:07:00 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090928140700.GE19778@shareable.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <A24693684029E5489D1D202277BE89444B781B63@dlee02.ent.ti.com>

Aguirre Rodriguez, Sergio Alberto wrote:
> In OMAP3 specifically, we were looking for this to happen, since we have
> big buffers that we need to share with other subsystems.
> 
> For example, when we take a 8 megapixel RAW 10-bit image (16MB) and
> we want to send it to the DSP bridge driver, doing a memcpy to another kernel
> allocated and mmaped buffer is a very suboptimal idea.
> (which is our only option as per your statement)

I used to think that about moving compressed video data around.  I
wanted my video decoding application to avoid copying compressed data
(which is about 20Mbit/s).  But then I did some back-of-the-envelope
calculations and decided it was so much easier to copy:

You're copying 16MB.  Let me guess - 32 bit data bus?  According to
Wikipedia, OMAP3 CPU is 600 to 1000MHz.  I've no idea what you're RAM
bus speed is, but is it somewhere around 200MHz?

Just guesstimating here: 16MB on 32-bit bus at 200MHz, copying to RAM
and back again = 200/8 = 0.04 seconds.

Is 0.04 seconds copying time worth devising zero-copy schemes for?  If
that's every frame of a video I'd say yes (but you'd have other
problems first); if it's non-video camera processing then I'd say no.
It's _nice_ to shave off 0.04 seconds, but weight it up against the
difficulties (and overheads) of making reliable DMA in this case.

-- Jamie

  reply	other threads:[~2009-09-28 14:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-09-28  9:29 arm_syscall cacheflush breakage on VIPT platforms Imre Deak
2009-09-28  9:41 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-09-28  9:54   ` Imre Deak
2009-09-28  9:59     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-09-28 10:10       ` Imre Deak
2009-09-28 10:28         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-09-28 11:00           ` Imre Deak
2009-09-28 16:54       ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-28  9:48 ` [PATCH] ARM: add warning for invalid kernel page faults Imre Deak
2009-09-28  9:55   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-09-28 10:00     ` Imre Deak
2009-09-28 10:04       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-09-28 10:16         ` Imre Deak
2009-09-28 10:27           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-09-28 11:01             ` Imre Deak
2009-09-28 11:05               ` [PATCH v2] " Imre Deak
2009-09-28 11:26               ` [PATCH] " Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-09-28 11:33                 ` Imre Deak
2009-09-28 11:34                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-09-29 10:07                     ` [PATCH v3] ARM: add debug check " Imre Deak
2009-09-28 12:49 ` arm_syscall cacheflush breakage on VIPT platforms Jamie Lokier
2009-09-28 13:16   ` Imre Deak
2009-09-28 13:19     ` Jamie Lokier
2009-09-28 13:25       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-09-28 13:56         ` Jamie Lokier
2009-09-28 13:31       ` Imre Deak
2009-09-28 13:42         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-09-28 13:55           ` Aguirre Rodriguez, Sergio Alberto
2009-09-28 14:07             ` Jamie Lokier [this message]
2009-09-28 14:10           ` Laurent Pinchart
2009-09-28 14:15             ` Jamie Lokier
2009-09-28 14:22               ` Laurent Pinchart
2009-09-28 14:50                 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-09-28 16:28                   ` Imre Deak
2009-09-28 19:35                     ` Jamie Lokier
2009-09-29  9:10                       ` Imre Deak
2009-09-28 20:18               ` Steven Walter
2009-09-29  0:50                 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-09-28 14:20             ` Bill Gatliff
2009-09-28 13:23     ` Russell King - ARM Linux

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