From: Neil Horman <nhorman@tuxdriver.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] proc: augment /proc/pid/limits to allow setting of process limits (v2).
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 20:59:56 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090930005956.GA4848@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090929134603.3935b149.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 01:46:03PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 16:25:04 -0400
> Neil Horman <nhorman@tuxdriver.com> wrote:
>
> > 3) modify the proc/pid/limits write routine so that it uses do_setrlimit,
> > thereby giving us the previously missing security checks.
>
> I dunno, the interface just seems goofy to me.
>
Well, I hear what your saying, although conversely, but it seems a bit goofy to
me to allocate another syscall number just to do what sys_setrlimit does, but
with the addition of a pid specification. I know theres precedent to do it, but
it seems no less goofy to me to do it that way than via a proc write.
> Yes, it's always been strange that rlimits cannot be externally
> altered. And desirable to extend that. But doing what is really a
> syscall via a profs poke when there already exists a syscall which does
> the same thing seems Just Wrong.
>
Again, I understand what your saying, but to draw a parallel, the reason
/proc/pid/limits exists in the first place is because there was a desire to know
what the rlimit values were for a process from external contexts. We could have
done this by creating a new syscall, and modifying the ulimit utility to accept
the data needed to support that new syscall. But we didn't do that, we made a
proc file. This just seems like the natural extension to that file, in my view.
With it, we don't need to create a new utility, or extend ulimit to make it all
work.
> What reason is there to do it via procfs? Where's the benefit?
>
Ease of use really. With this interface, we can use cat/echo/etc to do
administrative control of process limits. No need to extend ulimit, or create a
new utility.
> Maybe it's a plot to stop people from setting CONFIG_PROC_FS=n.
>
hmm, so I'm looking at the patch. 90% of the work is done for a new syscall.
If you're adamant that you'd rather see it that way, how would you feel about a
both option? I can write a follow on patch that creates a do_getrlimit, and
creates 2 new syscalls (to get/set rlimits for a specified pid). Then we take
this patch as is, as well as the new patch, and we can access limits either way,
programatically via the syscalls, or from a high sysadmin interface via the proc
file. Thoughts?
Neil
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-09-30 1:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 107+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-09-28 20:06 [PATCH] proc: augment /proc/pid/limits to allow setting of process limits Neil Horman
2009-09-28 22:44 ` Andrew Morton
2009-09-29 1:14 ` Neil Horman
2009-09-29 20:25 ` [PATCH] proc: augment /proc/pid/limits to allow setting of process limits (v2) Neil Horman
2009-09-29 20:46 ` Andrew Morton
2009-09-30 0:59 ` Neil Horman [this message]
2009-10-01 17:15 ` [PATCH 0/3] extend get/setrlimit to support setting rlimits external to a process (v3) Neil Horman
2009-10-01 17:16 ` [PATCH 1/3] " Neil Horman
2009-10-04 12:14 ` Marcin Slusarz
2009-10-04 16:50 ` Neil Horman
2009-10-04 20:04 ` Marcin Slusarz
2009-10-04 23:10 ` Neil Horman
2009-10-04 20:30 ` Marcin Slusarz
2009-10-01 17:21 ` [PATCH 2/3] " Neil Horman
2009-10-01 17:22 ` [PATCH 3/3] " Neil Horman
2009-10-05 0:26 ` [PATCH 0/3] extend get/setrlimit to support setting rlimits external to a process (v4) Neil Horman
2009-10-05 0:53 ` [PATCH 1/3] " Neil Horman
2009-10-08 21:32 ` Marcin Slusarz
2009-10-09 2:00 ` Neil Horman
2009-10-05 0:54 ` [PATCH 2/3] " Neil Horman
2009-10-05 1:57 ` Américo Wang
2009-10-05 12:32 ` Neil Horman
2009-10-05 0:54 ` [PATCH 3/3] " Neil Horman
2009-10-12 16:13 ` [PATCH 0/3] extend get/setrlimit to support setting rlimits external to a process (v5) Neil Horman
2009-10-12 16:20 ` [PATCH 1/3] " Neil Horman
2009-10-12 16:25 ` [PATCH 2/3] " Neil Horman
2009-10-12 16:27 ` [PATCH 3/3] " Neil Horman
2009-10-12 20:13 ` [PATCH 0/3] extend get/setrlimit to support setting rlimits external to a process (v6) Neil Horman
2009-10-12 20:20 ` [PATCH 1/3] " Neil Horman
2009-10-12 20:23 ` [PATCH 2/3] " Neil Horman
2009-10-12 20:25 ` [PATCH 3/3] " Neil Horman
2009-10-20 0:52 ` [PATCH 0/3] extend get/setrlimit to support setting rlimits external to a process (v7) Neil Horman
2009-10-20 0:53 ` [PATCH 1/3] " Neil Horman
2009-10-20 0:54 ` [PATCH 2/3] " Neil Horman
2009-11-02 15:10 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-02 17:40 ` Neil Horman
2009-10-20 0:55 ` [PATCH 3/3] " Neil Horman
2009-10-28 14:44 ` [PATCH 0/3] " Neil Horman
2009-10-30 18:24 ` Neil Horman
2009-11-02 15:25 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-02 17:54 ` Neil Horman
2009-11-02 18:51 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-03 0:23 ` Neil Horman
2009-11-04 11:26 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-05 20:48 ` Neil Horman
2009-11-06 9:26 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-06 10:00 ` Jiri Slaby
2009-11-08 10:36 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-09 0:10 ` Neil Horman
2009-11-09 8:32 ` Jiri Slaby
2009-11-09 13:34 ` Neil Horman
2009-11-09 8:54 ` Jiri Slaby
2009-11-09 9:01 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-09 9:22 ` Jiri Slaby
2009-11-09 9:26 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-09 13:35 ` Neil Horman
2009-11-09 15:56 ` Jiri Slaby
2009-11-09 16:40 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-11-09 17:15 ` Jiri Slaby
2009-11-09 17:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-11-09 17:36 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-11-18 14:51 ` Jiri Slaby
2009-11-18 14:51 ` [PATCH 01/16] core: posix-cpu-timers, cleanup rlimits usage Jiri Slaby
2009-11-18 16:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-11-18 14:51 ` [PATCH 02/16] core: do security check under task_lock Jiri Slaby
2009-11-18 21:47 ` James Morris
2009-11-18 14:51 ` [PATCH 03/16] IA64: use ACCESS_ONCE for rlimits Jiri Slaby
2009-11-18 14:51 ` Jiri Slaby
2009-11-18 18:56 ` Luck, Tony
2009-11-18 18:56 ` Luck, Tony
2009-11-18 19:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-11-18 19:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-11-19 2:28 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-19 2:28 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-18 14:51 ` [PATCH 04/16] PPC: " Jiri Slaby
2009-11-18 14:51 ` Jiri Slaby
2009-11-18 14:51 ` [PATCH 05/16] S390: " Jiri Slaby
2009-11-18 14:51 ` [PATCH 06/16] SPARC: " Jiri Slaby
2009-11-18 14:51 ` Jiri Slaby
2009-11-18 17:55 ` David Miller
2009-11-18 17:55 ` David Miller
2009-11-18 18:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-11-18 18:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-11-18 14:51 ` [PATCH 07/16] X86: " Jiri Slaby
2009-11-18 14:51 ` [PATCH 08/16] FS: " Jiri Slaby
2009-11-18 14:51 ` [PATCH 09/16] MM: " Jiri Slaby
2009-11-18 14:51 ` Jiri Slaby
2009-11-18 15:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-11-18 15:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-11-18 14:51 ` [PATCH 10/16] core: " Jiri Slaby
[not found] ` <4B040A03.2020508-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-18 14:51 ` [PATCH 11/16] misc: " Jiri Slaby
2009-11-18 14:51 ` Jiri Slaby
2009-11-18 14:51 ` [PATCH 12/16] core: rename setrlimit to do_setrlimit Jiri Slaby
2009-11-20 6:10 ` Américo Wang
2009-11-18 14:51 ` [PATCH 13/16] core: implement getprlimit and setprlimit syscalls Jiri Slaby
2009-11-20 13:14 ` Neil Horman
2009-11-18 14:52 ` [PATCH 14/16] unistd: add __NR_[get|set]prlimit syscall numbers Jiri Slaby
2009-11-18 14:52 ` [PATCH 15/16] COMPAT: add get/put_compat_rlimit Jiri Slaby
2009-12-30 23:55 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-01-06 9:35 ` Jiri Slaby
2009-11-18 14:52 ` [PATCH 16/16] x86: add ia32 compat prlimit syscalls Jiri Slaby
2009-11-18 23:15 ` [PATCH 0/3] extend get/setrlimit to support setting rlimits external to a process (v7) Oleg Nesterov
2009-11-19 15:43 ` Jiri Slaby
2009-11-20 2:11 ` acct_file_reopen() && do_acct_process() (Was: [PATCH 0/3] extend get/setrlimit to support setting rlimits external to a process (v7)) Oleg Nesterov
2009-11-20 10:27 ` Jiri Slaby
2009-10-12 21:58 ` [PATCH 0/3] extend get/setrlimit to support setting rlimits external to a process (v5) Andrew Morton
2009-10-13 0:06 ` Neil Horman
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