From: Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com>
To: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@us.ibm.com>
Cc: Sukadev Bhattiprolu <sukadev@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Oren Laadan <orenl@cs.columbia.edu>,
"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@openvz.org>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
torvalds@linux-foundation.org, mikew@google.com, mingo@elte.hu,
hpa@zytor.com, Nathan Lynch <nathanl@austin.ibm.com>,
arnd@arndb.de, peterz@infradead.org,
Containers <containers@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
sukadev@us.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [RFC][v7][PATCH 0/9] Implement clone2() system call
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 09:34:43 +0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090930053443.GA1010@x200> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090924183556.GA31356@us.ibm.com>
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 01:35:56PM -0500, Serge E. Hallyn wrote:
> Quoting Alexey Dobriyan (adobriyan@gmail.com):
> > I don't like this even more.
> >
> > Pid namespaces are hierarchical _and_ anonymous, so simply
> > set of numbers doesn't describe the final object.
> >
> > struct pid isn't special, it's just another invariant if you like
> > as far as C/R is concerned, but system call is made special wrt pids.
> >
> > What will be in an image? I hope "struct kstate_image_pid" with several
>
> Sure pid namespaces are anonymous, but we will give each an 'objref'
> valid only for a checkpoint image, and store the relationship between
> pid namespaces based on those objrefs. Basically the same way that user
> structs and hierarchical user namespaces are handled right now.
OK, that's certainly doable.
You're commiting yourself to creation of tasks in userspace if this goes in. :-\
Which can let you into putting wrong kind of relations into image.
IIRC, clone_flags were in image (still?), but tomorrow kernel will get
new way to acquire, say, uts_ns, which, in theory, can't be described by
a set of consecutive clones, so, you'll have to fixup something in kernel.
> > numbers and with references to such object from other places, so it
> > seems natural to do alloc_pid() with needed numbers and that attach new
> > shiny pid to where needed. But this clone_pid is only for task_struct's pids.
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Thread overview: 100+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-09-24 16:55 [RFC][v7][PATCH 0/9] Implement clone2() system call Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-09-24 17:00 ` [RFC][v7][PATCH 1/9]: Factor out code to allocate pidmap page Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-09-24 17:00 ` [RFC][v7][PATCH 2/9]: Have alloc_pidmap() return actual error code Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-09-24 17:01 ` [RFC][v7][PATCH 3/9] Make pid_max a pid_ns property Sukadev Bhattiprolu
[not found] ` <20090924170109.GC16989-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-09-24 17:45 ` Oren Laadan
2009-09-24 17:45 ` Oren Laadan
2009-09-24 17:01 ` [RFC][v7][PATCH 4/9]: Add target_pid parameter to alloc_pidmap() Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-09-24 17:47 ` Oren Laadan
[not found] ` <20090924170131.GD16989-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-09-24 17:47 ` Oren Laadan
2009-09-24 17:01 ` [RFC][v7][PATCH 5/9]: Add target_pids parameter to alloc_pid() Sukadev Bhattiprolu
[not found] ` <20090924165548.GA16586-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-09-24 17:00 ` [RFC][v7][PATCH 1/9]: Factor out code to allocate pidmap page Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-09-24 17:00 ` [RFC][v7][PATCH 2/9]: Have alloc_pidmap() return actual error code Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-09-24 17:01 ` [RFC][v7][PATCH 3/9] Make pid_max a pid_ns property Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-09-24 17:01 ` [RFC][v7][PATCH 4/9]: Add target_pid parameter to alloc_pidmap() Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-09-24 17:01 ` [RFC][v7][PATCH 5/9]: Add target_pids parameter to alloc_pid() Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-09-24 17:02 ` [RFC][v7][PATCH 6/9]: Add target_pids parameter to copy_process() Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-09-24 17:02 ` [RFC][v7][PATCH 7/9]: Define do_fork_with_pids() Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-09-24 17:03 ` [RFC][v7][PATCH 8/9]: Define clone2() syscall Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-09-24 17:03 ` [RFC][v7][PATCH 9/9]: Document " Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-09-24 17:44 ` [RFC][v7][PATCH 0/9] Implement clone2() system call Oren Laadan
2009-09-24 17:57 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2009-09-24 17:02 ` [RFC][v7][PATCH 6/9]: Add target_pids parameter to copy_process() Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-09-24 17:02 ` [RFC][v7][PATCH 7/9]: Define do_fork_with_pids() Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-09-24 17:03 ` [RFC][v7][PATCH 8/9]: Define clone2() syscall Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-09-24 21:43 ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-09-25 8:23 ` Louis Rilling
2009-09-25 10:56 ` Louis Rilling
2009-09-25 10:56 ` Louis Rilling
[not found] ` <20090925105632.GG12824-Hu8+6S1rdjywhHL9vcZdMVaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2009-09-29 18:05 ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-09-29 18:05 ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-09-29 18:05 ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
[not found] ` <20090929180537.GD4625-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-09-29 18:40 ` Roland McGrath
2009-09-29 18:40 ` Roland McGrath
[not found] ` <20090929184023.532DF34-nL1rrgvulkc2UH6IwYuUx0EOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2009-09-29 18:44 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-09-29 18:44 ` H. Peter Anvin
[not found] ` <4AC255A4.4030002-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2009-09-29 19:02 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-09-29 19:02 ` Arjan van de Ven
[not found] ` <20090929210207.247b94df-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-09-29 19:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-09-29 19:10 ` Linus Torvalds
[not found] ` <alpine.LFD.2.01.0909291207410.6996-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2009-09-29 20:02 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-09-29 20:02 ` H. Peter Anvin
[not found] ` <4AC267C7.4070300-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2009-09-29 22:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-09-29 22:11 ` Linus Torvalds
[not found] ` <alpine.LFD.2.01.0909291501530.6996-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2009-09-29 22:19 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-09-29 22:19 ` H. Peter Anvin
[not found] ` <4AC287F2.8060603-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2009-09-30 16:15 ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-09-30 16:15 ` Arnd Bergmann
[not found] ` <200909301815.45211.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2009-09-30 16:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-09-30 16:27 ` Linus Torvalds
[not found] ` <alpine.LFD.2.01.0909300925170.6996-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2009-09-30 17:59 ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-09-30 17:59 ` Arnd Bergmann
[not found] ` <200909301959.41706.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2009-09-30 19:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-09-30 19:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-09-30 19:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-09-30 16:15 ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-09-29 22:19 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-09-30 6:48 ` Roland McGrath
2009-09-30 6:48 ` Roland McGrath
2009-09-30 6:48 ` Roland McGrath
2009-09-29 20:02 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-09-29 19:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-09-29 20:00 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-09-29 20:00 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-09-29 18:44 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-09-29 18:40 ` Roland McGrath
2009-09-29 21:58 ` Oren Laadan
2009-09-29 21:58 ` Oren Laadan
2009-09-29 21:58 ` Oren Laadan
[not found] ` <200909242343.59903.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2009-09-25 8:23 ` Louis Rilling
[not found] ` <20090924170308.GH16989-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-09-24 21:43 ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-09-24 17:03 ` [RFC][v7][PATCH 9/9]: Document " Sukadev Bhattiprolu
[not found] ` <20090924170331.GI16989-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-09-24 18:05 ` Randy Dunlap
2009-09-25 2:31 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-09-24 18:05 ` Randy Dunlap
2009-09-25 2:31 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-09-24 17:44 ` [RFC][v7][PATCH 0/9] Implement clone2() system call Oren Laadan
2009-09-24 20:15 ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-09-24 22:06 ` Oren Laadan
[not found] ` <4ABBED72.9080901-RdfvBDnrOixBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-09-24 22:21 ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-09-24 22:21 ` Arnd Bergmann
[not found] ` <200909250021.03535.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2009-09-24 23:19 ` Oren Laadan
2009-09-24 23:19 ` Oren Laadan
[not found] ` <20090924201517.GA24786-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-09-24 22:06 ` Oren Laadan
[not found] ` <4ABBAFE5.2000704-RdfvBDnrOixBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-09-24 20:15 ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-10-01 2:36 ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-10-01 2:36 ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-10-01 15:19 ` Oren Laadan
[not found] ` <20091001023618.GA31344-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-01 15:19 ` Oren Laadan
2009-09-24 17:57 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2009-09-24 18:35 ` Serge E. Hallyn
[not found] ` <20090924183556.GA31356-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-09-30 5:34 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2009-09-30 5:34 ` Alexey Dobriyan [this message]
2009-09-30 17:41 ` Oren Laadan
2009-10-02 20:27 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2009-10-02 21:06 ` Oren Laadan
2009-10-02 21:06 ` Oren Laadan
[not found] ` <4AC39859.3090703-RdfvBDnrOixBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-02 20:27 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2009-09-30 17:41 ` Oren Laadan
2009-09-24 18:35 ` Serge E. Hallyn
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2009-09-24 16:55 Sukadev Bhattiprolu
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