From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Lai Jiangshan <laijs@cn.fujitsu.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@elte.hu, dipankar@in.ibm.com,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca,
josh@joshtriplett.org, dvhltc@us.ibm.com, niv@us.ibm.com,
tglx@linutronix.de, peterz@infradead.org, rostedt@goodmis.org,
Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu, dhowells@redhat.com, avi@redhat.com,
mtosatti@redhat.com, torvalds@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 1/3] rcu: The Bloatwatch Edition, v7
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 18:09:56 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091014010956.GG6782@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4AD51D3E.60103@cn.fujitsu.com>
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 08:37:18AM +0800, Lai Jiangshan wrote:
> Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> >> It's an old issue.
> >> It's not only about RCUTINY, it's also about other rcu implementations:
> >>
> >> rcu_enter_nohz()/rcu_exit_nohz() are not called in pairs.
> >>
> >> irq_exit() calls tick_nohz_stop_sched_tick() which calls rcu_enter_nohz(),
> >> where is the corresponding rcu_exit_nohz()?
> >> (or tick_nohz_restart_sched_tick())?
> >
> > The tick_nohz_restart_sched_tick() function is called from the various
> > per-architecture cpu_idle() functions (or default_idle() or whatever
> > name that the architecture uses). For example, in:
> >
> > arch/x86/kernel/process_64.c
> >
> > the cpu_idle() function invokes tick_nohz_restart_sched_tick() just
> > before invoking schedule() to exit the idle loop.
> >
> > And, as you say, tick_nohz_restart_sched_tick() invokes rcu_exit_nohz().
>
> These tick_nohz_restart_sched_tick() which are called from the various
> per-architecture cpu_idle() functions are not the opposite of
> the tick_nohz_stop_sched_tick() in *irq_exit()*. So I figure that
> rcu_enter_nohz()/rcu_exit_nohz() are not called in pairs.
OK, let's start with rcu_enter_nohz(), which tells RCU that the running
CPU is going into dyntick-idle mode, and thus should be ignored by RCU.
Let's do the idle loop first:
o Upon entry to the idle() loop (using cpu_idle() in
arch/x86/kernel/process_64.c for this exercise),
we invoke tick_nohz_stop_sched_tick(1), which says we
are in an idle loop. (This is in contrast to the call
from irq_exit(), where we are not in the idle loop.)
o tick_nohz_stop_sched_tick() invokes rcu_enter_nohz(),
does a bunch of timer checking, and returns. If anything
indicated that entering dyntick-idle mode would be bad,
we raise TIMER_SOFTIRQ to kick us out of this mode.
Either way, we return to the idle loop.
o The idle loops until need_resched(). Upon exit from the
idle loop, we call tick_nohz_restart_sched_tick(), which
invokes rcu_exit_nohz(), which tells RCU to start paying
attention to this CPU once more.
OK, now for interrupts.
o The hardware interrupt handlers invoke irq_enter(), which in
turn invokes rcu_irq_enter(). This has no real effect (other
than incrementing a counter) if the interrupt did not come
from dyntick-idle mode.
Either way, RCU is now paying attention to RCU read-side
critical sections on this CPU.
o Upon return from interrupt, the hardware interrupt handlers
invoke irq_exit(), which in turn invokes rcu_irq_exit().
This has no real effect (other than decrementing a counter)
if the interrupt is not returning to dyntick-idle mode.
However, if the interrupt -is- returning to dyntick-idle
mode, then RCU will stop paying attention to RCU read-side
critical sections on this CPU.
So I do believe that rcu_enter_nohz() and rcu_exit_nohz() are in fact
invoked in pairs. One strange thing about this is that the idle loop
first invokes rcu_enter_nohz(), then invokes rcu_exit_nohz(), while
an interrupt handler first invokes rcu_irq_enter() and then invokes
rcu_irq_exit(). So the idle loop enters dyntick-idle mode and then
leaves it, while an interrupt handler might leave dyntick-idle mode and
then re-enter it.
Or am I still missing something here?
Thanx, Paul
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-10-14 1:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-10-09 22:49 [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 0/3] Tiny RCU and expedited SRCU Paul E. McKenney
2009-10-09 22:50 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 1/3] rcu: The Bloatwatch Edition, v7 Paul E. McKenney
2009-10-12 9:29 ` Lai Jiangshan
2009-10-12 16:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-12 17:30 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-10-13 6:05 ` Lai Jiangshan
2009-10-13 7:44 ` Lai Jiangshan
2009-10-13 17:00 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-10-14 0:37 ` Lai Jiangshan
2009-10-14 1:09 ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2009-10-14 2:05 ` Lai Jiangshan
2009-10-14 2:49 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-10-27 7:26 ` Lai Jiangshan
2009-10-27 19:56 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-10-14 2:52 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-10-09 22:50 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 2/3] rcu: Add synchronize_srcu_expedited() Paul E. McKenney
2009-10-09 22:50 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 3/3] rcu: add synchronize_srcu_expedited() to the rcutorture test suite Paul E. McKenney
2009-10-10 3:47 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 0/3] Tiny RCU and expedited SRCU Josh Triplett
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