From: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
To: Corrado Zoccolo <czoccolo@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, jens.axboe@oracle.com,
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Subject: [RFC] Workload type Vs Groups (Was: Re: [PATCH 02/20] blkio: Change CFQ to use CFS like queue time stamps)
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 17:22:57 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091106222257.GB2969@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4e5e476b0911041318w68bd774qf110d1abd7f946e4@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, Nov 04, 2009 at 10:18:15PM +0100, Corrado Zoccolo wrote:
> Hi Vivek,
> On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 12:43 AM, Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com> wrote:
> > o Previously CFQ had one service tree where queues of all theree prio classes
> > were being queued. One side affect of this time stamping approach is that
> > now single tree approach might not work and we need to keep separate service
> > trees for three prio classes.
> >
> Single service tree is no longer true in cfq for-2.6.33.
> Now we have a matrix of service trees, with first dimension being the
> priority class, and second dimension being the workload type
> (synchronous idle, synchronous no-idle, async).
> You can have a look at the series: http://lkml.org/lkml/2009/10/26/482 .
> It may have other interesting influences on your work, as the idle
> introduced at the end of the synchronous no-idle tree, that provides
> fairness also for seeky or high-think-time queues.
>
Hi All,
I am now rebasing my patches to for-2.6.33 branch. There are significant
number of changes in that branch, especially changes from corrado bring
in an interesting question.
Currently corrado has introduced the functinality of kind of grouping the
cfq queues based on workload type and gives the time slots to these sub
groups (sync-idle, sync-noidle, async).
I was thinking of placing groups on top of this model, so that we select
the group first and then select the type of workload and then finally
the queue to run.
Corrodo came up with an interesting suggestion (in a private mail), that
what if we implement workload type at top and divide the share among
groups with-in workoad type.
So one would first select the workload to run and then select group
with-in workload and then cfq queue with-in group.
The advantage of this approach are.
- for sync-noidle group, we will not idle per group. We will idle only
only at root level. (Well if we don't idle on the group once it becomes
empty, we will not see fairness for group. So it will be fairness vs
throughput call).
- It allows us to limit system wide share of workload type. So for
example, one can kind of fix system wide share of async queues.
Generally it might not be very prudent to allocate a group 50% of
disk share and then that group decides to just do async IO and sync
IO in rest of the groups suffer.
Disadvantage
- The definition of fairness becomes bit murkier. Now fairness will be
achieved for a group with-in the workload type. So if a group is doing
IO of type sync-idle as well as sync-noidle and other group is doing
IO of type only sync-noidle, then first group will get overall more
disk time even if both the groups have same weight.
Looking for some feedback about which appraoch makes more sense before I
write patches.
Thanks
Vivek
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-11-06 22:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-11-03 23:43 [RFC] Block IO Controller V1 Vivek Goyal
2009-11-03 23:43 ` [PATCH 01/20] blkio: Documentation Vivek Goyal
2009-11-04 13:37 ` Jeff Moyer
2009-11-04 17:21 ` Balbir Singh
2009-11-04 17:52 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-11-04 23:36 ` Balbir Singh
2009-11-03 23:43 ` [PATCH 02/20] blkio: Change CFQ to use CFS like queue time stamps Vivek Goyal
2009-11-04 14:30 ` Jeff Moyer
2009-11-04 16:37 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-11-04 17:59 ` Corrado Zoccolo
2009-11-04 18:54 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-11-05 2:44 ` Divyesh Shah
2009-11-05 14:39 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-11-04 21:18 ` Corrado Zoccolo
2009-11-04 22:25 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-11-05 8:36 ` Corrado Zoccolo
2009-11-04 23:22 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-11-05 8:27 ` Corrado Zoccolo
2009-11-05 0:05 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-11-06 22:22 ` Vivek Goyal [this message]
2009-11-09 17:33 ` [RFC] Workload type Vs Groups (Was: Re: [PATCH 02/20] blkio: Change CFQ to use CFS like queue time stamps) Nauman Rafique
2009-11-09 21:47 ` Corrado Zoccolo
2009-11-09 23:12 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-11-10 11:29 ` Corrado Zoccolo
2009-11-10 13:31 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-11-10 14:12 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-11-10 18:05 ` Corrado Zoccolo
2009-11-10 19:15 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-11-12 8:53 ` Corrado Zoccolo
2009-11-11 0:48 ` [PATCH 02/20] blkio: Change CFQ to use CFS like queue time stamps Gui Jianfeng
2009-11-12 23:07 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-11-13 0:59 ` Gui Jianfeng
2009-11-13 1:24 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-11-13 2:05 ` Gui Jianfeng
2009-11-03 23:43 ` [PATCH 03/20] blkio: Introduce the notion of weights Vivek Goyal
2009-11-04 15:06 ` Jeff Moyer
2009-11-04 15:41 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-11-04 17:07 ` Divyesh Shah
2009-11-04 19:00 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-11-04 19:15 ` Jeff Moyer
2009-11-03 23:43 ` [PATCH 04/20] blkio: Introduce the notion of cfq entity Vivek Goyal
2009-11-03 23:43 ` [PATCH 05/20] blkio: Introduce the notion of cfq groups Vivek Goyal
2009-11-03 23:43 ` [PATCH 06/20] blkio: Introduce cgroup interface Vivek Goyal
2009-11-04 15:23 ` Jeff Moyer
2009-11-04 16:47 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-11-03 23:43 ` [PATCH 07/20] blkio: Provide capablity to enqueue/dequeue group entities Vivek Goyal
2009-11-04 15:34 ` Jeff Moyer
2009-11-04 16:54 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-11-03 23:43 ` [PATCH 08/20] blkio: Add support for dynamic creation of cfq_groups Vivek Goyal
2009-11-04 16:01 ` Jeff Moyer
2009-11-03 23:43 ` [PATCH 09/20] blkio: Porpogate blkio cgroup weight or ioprio class updation to cfq groups Vivek Goyal
2009-11-05 5:35 ` Gui Jianfeng
2009-11-05 14:42 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-11-03 23:43 ` [PATCH 10/20] blkio: Implement cfq group deletion and reference counting support Vivek Goyal
2009-11-04 18:44 ` Jeff Moyer
2009-11-04 19:00 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-11-03 23:43 ` [PATCH 11/20] blkio: Some CFQ debugging Aid Vivek Goyal
2009-11-04 18:52 ` Jeff Moyer
2009-11-04 19:12 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-11-04 19:25 ` Jeff Moyer
2009-11-05 3:10 ` Divyesh Shah
2009-11-05 14:42 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-11-06 0:56 ` Divyesh Shah
2009-11-03 23:43 ` [PATCH 12/20] blkio: Export disk time and sectors dispatched from cgroup interface Vivek Goyal
2009-11-03 23:43 ` [PATCH 13/20] blkio: Add a group dequeue interface in cgroup for debugging Vivek Goyal
2009-11-03 23:43 ` [PATCH 14/20] blkio: Do not allow request merging across cfq groups Vivek Goyal
2009-11-03 23:43 ` [PATCH 15/20] blkio: Take care of preemptions across groups Vivek Goyal
2009-11-04 19:00 ` Jeff Moyer
2009-11-04 19:27 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-11-04 19:30 ` Jeff Moyer
2009-11-06 7:55 ` Gui Jianfeng
2009-11-06 22:10 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-11-09 7:41 ` Gui Jianfeng
2009-11-03 23:43 ` [PATCH 16/20] blkio: do not select co-operating queues from different cfq groups Vivek Goyal
2009-11-03 23:43 ` [PATCH 17/20] blkio: Wait for queue to get backlogged before it expires Vivek Goyal
2009-11-03 23:43 ` [PATCH 18/20] blkio: arm idle timer even if think time is great then time slice left Vivek Goyal
2009-11-04 19:04 ` Jeff Moyer
2009-11-04 19:17 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-11-03 23:43 ` [PATCH 19/20] blkio: Arm slice timer even if there are requests in driver Vivek Goyal
2009-11-03 23:43 ` [PATCH 20/20] blkio: Drop the reference to queue once the task changes cgroup Vivek Goyal
2009-11-04 19:09 ` Jeff Moyer
2009-11-04 19:18 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-11-04 7:43 ` [RFC] Block IO Controller V1 Jens Axboe
2009-11-04 13:39 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-11-04 19:12 ` Jeff Moyer
2009-11-04 19:19 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-11-04 19:27 ` Jeff Moyer
2009-11-04 19:38 ` Vivek Goyal
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