From: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
To: Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Prasad <prasad@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@web.de>, Jiri Slaby <jirislaby@gmail.com>,
Li Zefan <lizf@cn.fujitsu.com>, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>,
Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@redhat.com>,
Paul Mundt <lethal@linux-sh.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/6] hw-breakpoints: Rewrite the hw-breakpoints layer on top of perf events
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 20:52:09 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091107195204.GA4930@nowhere> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <19189.17876.115917.777652@cargo.ozlabs.ibm.com>
On Sat, Nov 07, 2009 at 09:03:00PM +1100, Paul Mackerras wrote:
> Frederic Weisbecker writes:
>
> > On Thu, Nov 05, 2009 at 10:59:44AM +1100, Paul Mackerras wrote:
> > > What I haven't managed to understand yet is how you provide reliable
> > > breakpoints for debugging purposes. If I'm debugging a program and I
> > > have set a breakpoint, I'll be very unhappy if the breakpoint should
> > > trigger but doesn't because the perf_event infrastructure has decided
> > > it can't schedule that breakpoint in. If the breakpoint isn't going
> > > to work then I want to know that at the time that I set it.
> >
> >
> >
> > That won't happen because of the set of constraints we have.
> > We never overcommit the debug register resources, except in
> > the case of non-pinned counter, but that's in their nature :)
>
> Suppose you have 4 breakpoint registers per cpu and there are two
> pinned per-cpu breakpoint events, three non-pinned per-cpu breakpoint
> events, and one pinned per-task breakpoint event. I believe your
> constraints will allow that situation.
>
> What will happen is that the two pinned per-cpu breakpoint events will
> use two of the hardware registers, and the three non-pinned per-cpu
> breakpoint events will get round-robined onto the other two hardware
> registers. The per-task breakpoint will never get to use a hardware
> register, because the code in perf_event.c schedules per-cpu events
> before it schedules per-task events (see for example
> perf_event_task_tick()).
Oh! :-(
> We will have to make the event scheduling in kernel/perf_event.c a bit
> more sophisticated before we can guarantee that a pinned breakpoint
> event will always get to use a hardware register.
>
> Paul.
Ok, so the only solution for now (a part from fixing that into perf) is to
consider the non-pinned events as being pinned in the constraints.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-11-07 19:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-11-03 19:11 [GIT PULL v4] hw-breakpoints: Rewrite on top of perf events v4 Frederic Weisbecker
2009-11-03 19:11 ` [PATCH 1/6] perf/core: Provide a kernel-internal interface to get to performance counters Frederic Weisbecker
2009-11-03 19:11 ` [PATCH 2/6] x86/hw-breakpoints: Actually flush thread breakpoints in flush_thread() Frederic Weisbecker
2009-11-03 19:11 ` [PATCH 3/6] perf/core: Add a callback to perf events Frederic Weisbecker
2009-11-03 19:11 ` [PATCH 4/6] hw-breakpoints: Rewrite the hw-breakpoints layer on top of " Frederic Weisbecker
2009-11-03 19:58 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-11-03 20:15 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-11-03 20:22 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-11-03 20:29 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-11-03 20:39 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-11-03 20:45 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-11-04 23:59 ` Paul Mackerras
2009-11-05 6:00 ` K.Prasad
2009-11-05 11:00 ` Paul Mackerras
2009-11-05 11:09 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-11-07 10:03 ` Paul Mackerras
2009-11-07 19:52 ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2009-11-05 11:03 ` Paul Mackerras
2009-11-05 11:11 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-11-05 15:34 ` K.Prasad
2009-11-05 21:06 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-11-08 17:32 ` K.Prasad
2009-11-12 15:42 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-11-03 19:11 ` [PATCH 5/6] hw-breakpoints: Arbitrate access to pmu following registers constraints Frederic Weisbecker
2009-11-05 10:58 ` Paul Mackerras
2009-11-05 11:24 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-11-08 20:56 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-11-12 15:54 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-11-12 20:00 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-11-14 13:34 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-11-03 19:11 ` [PATCH 6/6] ksym_tracer: Remove KSYM_SELFTEST_ENTRY Frederic Weisbecker
2009-11-05 14:13 ` [GIT PULL v4] hw-breakpoints: Rewrite on top of perf events v4 K.Prasad
2009-11-05 20:30 ` Frederic Weisbecker
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-10-24 14:16 [GIT PULL v2] hw-breakpoints: Rewrite on top of perf events Frederic Weisbecker
2009-10-24 14:16 ` [PATCH 4/6] hw-breakpoints: Rewrite the hw-breakpoints layer " Frederic Weisbecker
2009-10-24 16:19 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-10-25 23:31 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-10-26 8:17 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-11-01 21:09 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-11-01 22:09 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-11-01 22:49 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-11-01 23:37 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-11-02 7:45 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-11-02 13:04 ` Frederic Weisbecker
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