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From: Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>
To: Oliver Neukum <oliver@neukum.org>
Cc: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
	linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, USB list <linux-usb@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] usb: Add support for runtime power management of the hcd
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:59:58 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091112165958.GA9389@srcf.ucam.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200911121800.02383.oliver@neukum.org>

On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 06:00:02PM +0100, Oliver Neukum wrote:

> Exactly, but that isn't the same as needing two attributes exported to user
> space. That is an absolute requirement only if we can't tell what a device's
> capabilities are.

Right. I don't see any reason for runtime wakeup to be exposed to 
userspace - it's an entirely orthogonal concept to system wakeup. The 
relevant userspace policy is whether or not runtime pm is enabled.

> We could introduce a second attribute if we want to prevent drivers from
> using remote wakeup to do runtime power management, but it is not
> required. We could simply not give user space that choice.

Absolutely.

-- 
Matthew Garrett | mjg59@srcf.ucam.org

  reply	other threads:[~2009-11-12 17:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-11-09 22:43 [PATCH] usb: Add support for runtime power management of the hcd Matthew Garrett
2009-11-10  8:20 ` Oliver Neukum
     [not found]   ` <200911100920.03361.oliver-GvhC2dPhHPQdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-10 12:41     ` Matthew Garrett
     [not found]       ` <20091110124109.GA18631-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-10 13:08         ` Oliver Neukum
     [not found]           ` <200911101408.01867.oliver-GvhC2dPhHPQdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-10 14:12             ` Matthew Garrett
     [not found]               ` <20091110141259.GA19792-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-10 15:04                 ` Alan Stern
     [not found]                   ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0911100949500.2888-100000-IYeN2dnnYyZXsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-11 11:34                     ` Oliver Neukum
     [not found]                       ` <200911111234.43867.oliver-GvhC2dPhHPQdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-11 17:08                         ` Alan Stern
2009-11-11 17:27                           ` Oliver Neukum
2009-11-11 19:06                             ` Alan Stern
     [not found]                               ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0911111400370.6882-100000-pYrvlCTfrz9XsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-11 22:24                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-11-11 23:09                                   ` Alan Stern
2009-11-12  0:33                                     ` Matthew Garrett
2009-11-12  7:41                                       ` Oliver Neukum
2009-11-12 14:51                                         ` Matthew Garrett
2009-11-12 16:50                                           ` Alan Stern
     [not found]                                           ` <20091112145121.GB6709-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-12 17:00                                             ` Oliver Neukum
2009-11-12 16:59                                               ` Matthew Garrett [this message]
     [not found]                                                 ` <20091112165958.GA9389-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-16 21:26                                                   ` Oliver Neukum
2009-11-16 22:26                                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                                       ` <20091112003312.GA27572-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-12 16:22                                         ` Alan Stern
2009-11-12 14:44                                     ` Oliver Neukum
     [not found]                                       ` <200911121544.19313.oliver-GvhC2dPhHPQdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-12 16:47                                         ` Alan Stern
2009-11-12 10:31                                   ` Oliver Neukum
2009-11-12 14:50                                     ` Matthew Garrett
2009-11-11 22:15                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-11-11 23:05                     ` Alan Stern
2009-11-11 21:36               ` Rafael J. Wysocki

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