From: Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>
To: Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>
Cc: David Zeuthen <david@fubar.dk>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, axboe@kernel.dk,
linux-hotplug@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:33:55 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091118213355.GA16630@srcf.ucam.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ac3eb2510911181306g221e8940xfbcf8b8e7fa9a56e@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:06:33PM +0100, Kay Sievers wrote:
> That's true, but I think there is a significant difference between
> polling every one or two seconds for media changes, and usually one or
> two minutes for a disk idle. It's not that we poll in a rather hight
> frequency, in an arbitrary interval, and check if some condition is
> met.
My use cases are on the order of a second.
> I still don't think that we should add new event interfaces which are
> single-subscriber only, and use global values for a specific user.
> What if there will be another independent user for this, which might
> want a different timeout? They fight over the trigger value to set in
> sysfs?
You can trivially multiplex without any additional wakeups. Something
like devkit-disks can simply trigger on the lowest requested time and
then schedule wakeups for subscribers who want a different timeout.
> From my perspective, the once-at-timeout wakeup is more acceptable
> than an in-kernel policy setting for a single-subscriber event
> interface.
I'd be open to it being something for multiple subscribers, though that
would add to the complexity in the block code and I'm not sure that's
needed.
--
Matthew Garrett | mjg59@srcf.ucam.org
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>
To: Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>
Cc: David Zeuthen <david@fubar.dk>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, axboe@kernel.dk,
linux-hotplug@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle changes
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:33:55 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091118213355.GA16630@srcf.ucam.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ac3eb2510911181306g221e8940xfbcf8b8e7fa9a56e@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:06:33PM +0100, Kay Sievers wrote:
> That's true, but I think there is a significant difference between
> polling every one or two seconds for media changes, and usually one or
> two minutes for a disk idle. It's not that we poll in a rather hight
> frequency, in an arbitrary interval, and check if some condition is
> met.
My use cases are on the order of a second.
> I still don't think that we should add new event interfaces which are
> single-subscriber only, and use global values for a specific user.
> What if there will be another independent user for this, which might
> want a different timeout? They fight over the trigger value to set in
> sysfs?
You can trivially multiplex without any additional wakeups. Something
like devkit-disks can simply trigger on the lowest requested time and
then schedule wakeups for subscribers who want a different timeout.
> From my perspective, the once-at-timeout wakeup is more acceptable
> than an in-kernel policy setting for a single-subscriber event
> interface.
I'd be open to it being something for multiple subscribers, though that
would add to the complexity in the block code and I'm not sure that's
needed.
--
Matthew Garrett | mjg59@srcf.ucam.org
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2009-11-17 14:37 [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle changes Matthew Garrett
2009-11-17 14:37 ` Matthew Garrett
2009-11-17 15:55 ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle Kay Sievers
2009-11-17 15:55 ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle changes Kay Sievers
2009-11-17 16:09 ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle David Zeuthen
2009-11-17 16:09 ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle changes David Zeuthen
2009-11-17 18:57 ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle Matthew Garrett
2009-11-17 18:57 ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle changes Matthew Garrett
2009-11-18 19:30 ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle Kay Sievers
2009-11-18 19:30 ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle changes Kay Sievers
2009-11-18 19:40 ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle Matthew Garrett
2009-11-18 19:40 ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle changes Matthew Garrett
2009-11-18 19:47 ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle Kay Sievers
2009-11-18 19:47 ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle changes Kay Sievers
2009-11-18 19:53 ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle Matthew Garrett
2009-11-18 19:53 ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle changes Matthew Garrett
2009-11-18 20:03 ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle Kay Sievers
2009-11-18 20:03 ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle changes Kay Sievers
2009-11-18 20:07 ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle Matthew Garrett
2009-11-18 20:07 ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle changes Matthew Garrett
2009-11-18 21:06 ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle Kay Sievers
2009-11-18 21:06 ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle changes Kay Sievers
2009-11-18 21:29 ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle Kay Sievers
2009-11-18 21:29 ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle changes Kay Sievers
2009-11-18 21:35 ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle Matthew Garrett
2009-11-18 21:35 ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle changes Matthew Garrett
2009-11-18 21:39 ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle Kay Sievers
2009-11-18 21:39 ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle changes Kay Sievers
2009-11-18 21:45 ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle Matthew Garrett
2009-11-18 21:45 ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle changes Matthew Garrett
2009-11-18 21:33 ` Matthew Garrett [this message]
2009-11-18 21:33 ` Matthew Garrett
2009-11-18 21:40 ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle Kay Sievers
2009-11-18 21:40 ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle changes Kay Sievers
2009-11-19 11:09 ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle Kay Sievers
2009-11-19 11:09 ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle changes Kay Sievers
2009-11-19 13:01 ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle Matthew Garrett
2009-11-19 13:01 ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle changes Matthew Garrett
2009-11-19 13:29 ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle Kay Sievers
2009-11-19 13:29 ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle changes Kay Sievers
2009-11-19 14:16 ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle Matthew Garrett
2009-11-19 14:16 ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle changes Matthew Garrett
2009-11-19 14:25 ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle Kay Sievers
2009-11-19 14:25 ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle changes Kay Sievers
2009-11-19 14:30 ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle Matthew Garrett
2009-11-19 14:30 ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle changes Matthew Garrett
2009-11-19 14:34 ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle Kay Sievers
2009-11-19 14:34 ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle changes Kay Sievers
2009-11-19 14:48 ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle Matthew Garrett
2009-11-19 14:48 ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle changes Matthew Garrett
2009-11-19 15:00 ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle Kay Sievers
2009-11-19 15:00 ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle changes Kay Sievers
2009-11-20 20:29 ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle Matthew Garrett
2009-11-20 20:29 ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle changes Matthew Garrett
2009-11-22 23:37 ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle Pavel Machek
2009-11-22 23:37 ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle changes Pavel Machek
2009-11-23 14:12 ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle Matthew Garrett
2009-11-23 14:12 ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle changes Matthew Garrett
2009-11-23 14:17 ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle Jens Axboe
2009-11-23 14:17 ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle changes Jens Axboe
2009-11-23 14:25 ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle Matthew Garrett
2009-11-23 14:25 ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle changes Matthew Garrett
2009-11-23 14:31 ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle Jens Axboe
2009-11-23 14:31 ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle changes Jens Axboe
2009-11-23 14:42 ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle Matthew Garrett
2009-11-23 14:42 ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle changes Matthew Garrett
2009-11-23 19:50 ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle Jens Axboe
2009-11-23 19:50 ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle changes Jens Axboe
2009-11-23 19:54 ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle Matthew Garrett
2009-11-23 19:54 ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle changes Matthew Garrett
2009-12-11 21:20 ` [RFC] Add support for events " Matthew Garrett
2009-11-18 22:10 ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents " Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2009-11-18 22:10 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
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