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From: Matthew Garrett <mjg@redhat.com>
To: Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>
Cc: David Zeuthen <david@fubar.dk>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, axboe@kernel.dk,
	linux-hotplug@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:01:07 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091119130107.GB20949@srcf.ucam.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ac3eb2510911190309y6d0d8445wd907fc5664595c6f@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 12:09:30PM +0100, Kay Sievers wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 22:33, Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org> wrote:
> > My use cases are on the order of a second.
> 
> Ok, what's the specific use case, which should be triggered after a
> second? I thought you were thinking about disk spindown or similar.

The first is altering ALPM policy. ALPM will be initiated by the host if 
the number of queued requests hits zero - if there's no hysteresis 
implemented, then that can result in a significant performance hit. We 
don't need /much/ hysteresis, but it's the difference between a 50% 
performance hit and not having that.

The other I'm currently looking at is monitoring disk usage in order to 
be able to apply an adaptive policy to disk spindown. This doesn't need 
the information to be as accurate, but it would still be better at 
closer to the second granularity than the minute level.

-- 
Matthew Garrett | mjg59@srcf.ucam.org

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Matthew Garrett <mjg@redhat.com>
To: Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>
Cc: David Zeuthen <david@fubar.dk>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, axboe@kernel.dk,
	linux-hotplug@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle changes
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:01:07 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091119130107.GB20949@srcf.ucam.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ac3eb2510911190309y6d0d8445wd907fc5664595c6f@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 12:09:30PM +0100, Kay Sievers wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 22:33, Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org> wrote:
> > My use cases are on the order of a second.
> 
> Ok, what's the specific use case, which should be triggered after a
> second? I thought you were thinking about disk spindown or similar.

The first is altering ALPM policy. ALPM will be initiated by the host if 
the number of queued requests hits zero - if there's no hysteresis 
implemented, then that can result in a significant performance hit. We 
don't need /much/ hysteresis, but it's the difference between a 50% 
performance hit and not having that.

The other I'm currently looking at is monitoring disk usage in order to 
be able to apply an adaptive policy to disk spindown. This doesn't need 
the information to be as accurate, but it would still be better at 
closer to the second granularity than the minute level.

-- 
Matthew Garrett | mjg59@srcf.ucam.org

  reply	other threads:[~2009-11-19 13:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-11-17 14:37 [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle changes Matthew Garrett
2009-11-17 14:37 ` Matthew Garrett
2009-11-17 15:55 ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle Kay Sievers
2009-11-17 15:55   ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle changes Kay Sievers
2009-11-17 16:09   ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle David Zeuthen
2009-11-17 16:09     ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle changes David Zeuthen
2009-11-17 18:57     ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle Matthew Garrett
2009-11-17 18:57       ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle changes Matthew Garrett
2009-11-18 19:30       ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle Kay Sievers
2009-11-18 19:30         ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle changes Kay Sievers
2009-11-18 19:40         ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle Matthew Garrett
2009-11-18 19:40           ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle changes Matthew Garrett
2009-11-18 19:47           ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle Kay Sievers
2009-11-18 19:47             ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle changes Kay Sievers
2009-11-18 19:53             ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle Matthew Garrett
2009-11-18 19:53               ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle changes Matthew Garrett
2009-11-18 20:03               ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle Kay Sievers
2009-11-18 20:03                 ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle changes Kay Sievers
2009-11-18 20:07                 ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle Matthew Garrett
2009-11-18 20:07                   ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle changes Matthew Garrett
2009-11-18 21:06                   ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle Kay Sievers
2009-11-18 21:06                     ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle changes Kay Sievers
2009-11-18 21:29                     ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle Kay Sievers
2009-11-18 21:29                       ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle changes Kay Sievers
2009-11-18 21:35                       ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle Matthew Garrett
2009-11-18 21:35                         ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle changes Matthew Garrett
2009-11-18 21:39                         ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle Kay Sievers
2009-11-18 21:39                           ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle changes Kay Sievers
2009-11-18 21:45                           ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle Matthew Garrett
2009-11-18 21:45                             ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle changes Matthew Garrett
2009-11-18 21:33                     ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle Matthew Garrett
2009-11-18 21:33                       ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle changes Matthew Garrett
2009-11-18 21:40                       ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle Kay Sievers
2009-11-18 21:40                         ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle changes Kay Sievers
2009-11-19 11:09                       ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle Kay Sievers
2009-11-19 11:09                         ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle changes Kay Sievers
2009-11-19 13:01                         ` Matthew Garrett [this message]
2009-11-19 13:01                           ` Matthew Garrett
2009-11-19 13:29                           ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle Kay Sievers
2009-11-19 13:29                             ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle changes Kay Sievers
2009-11-19 14:16                             ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle Matthew Garrett
2009-11-19 14:16                               ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle changes Matthew Garrett
2009-11-19 14:25                               ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle Kay Sievers
2009-11-19 14:25                                 ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle changes Kay Sievers
2009-11-19 14:30                                 ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle Matthew Garrett
2009-11-19 14:30                                   ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle changes Matthew Garrett
2009-11-19 14:34                                   ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle Kay Sievers
2009-11-19 14:34                                     ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle changes Kay Sievers
2009-11-19 14:48                                     ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle Matthew Garrett
2009-11-19 14:48                                       ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle changes Matthew Garrett
2009-11-19 15:00                                       ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle Kay Sievers
2009-11-19 15:00                                         ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle changes Kay Sievers
2009-11-20 20:29                                         ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle Matthew Garrett
2009-11-20 20:29                                           ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle changes Matthew Garrett
2009-11-22 23:37                   ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle Pavel Machek
2009-11-22 23:37                     ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle changes Pavel Machek
2009-11-23 14:12                     ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle Matthew Garrett
2009-11-23 14:12                       ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle changes Matthew Garrett
2009-11-23 14:17                     ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle Jens Axboe
2009-11-23 14:17                       ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle changes Jens Axboe
2009-11-23 14:25                       ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle Matthew Garrett
2009-11-23 14:25                         ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle changes Matthew Garrett
2009-11-23 14:31                         ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle Jens Axboe
2009-11-23 14:31                           ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle changes Jens Axboe
2009-11-23 14:42                           ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle Matthew Garrett
2009-11-23 14:42                             ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle changes Matthew Garrett
2009-11-23 19:50                             ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle Jens Axboe
2009-11-23 19:50                               ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle changes Jens Axboe
2009-11-23 19:54                               ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle Matthew Garrett
2009-11-23 19:54                                 ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents on block device idle changes Matthew Garrett
2009-12-11 21:20                               ` [RFC] Add support for events " Matthew Garrett
2009-11-18 22:10 ` [PATCH] [RFC] Add support for uevents " Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2009-11-18 22:10   ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz

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