From: Jean Delvare <khali@linux-fr.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Leon Woestenberg <leon.woestenberg@gmail.com>,
Mark Brown <broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com>,
Sven-Thorsten Dietrich <sven@thebigcorporation.com>,
linux-i2c@vger.kernel.org,
rt-users <linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org>,
"Ben Dooks (embedded platforms)" <ben-linux@fluff.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: yield() in i2c non-happy paths hits BUG under -rt patch
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:00:08 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091119150008.6e757c26@hyperion.delvare> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1258636014.4372.328.camel@twins>
Hi Peter,
On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 14:06:54 +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-11-19 at 12:59 +0000, Alan Cox wrote:
> > > Well, I guess only people monitoring system latency would notice, as
> > > this is the only thing yield() was supposed to help with in the first
> > > place.
> >
> > if (need_resched())
> > schedule();
>
> aka.
>
> cond_resched();
Are you saying that most calls to yield() should be replaced with calls
to cond_resched()?
I admit I a little skeptical. While the description of cond_resched()
("latency reduction via explicit rescheduling in places that are safe")
sounds promising, following the calls leads me to:
static inline int need_resched(void)
{
return unlikely(test_thread_flag(TIF_NEED_RESCHED));
}
So apparently the condition for need_resched() to do anything is
considered unlikely... suggesting that cond_resched() is a no-op in
most cases? I don't quite get the point of moving away from sched()
because it is a no-op, if we end up with a no-op under a different name.
--
Jean Delvare
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-11-19 14:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-11-07 19:01 yield() in i2c non-happy paths hits BUG under -rt patch Leon Woestenberg
[not found] ` <c384c5ea0911071101u7415d37o2611c542e5fae309-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-07 20:01 ` Jean Delvare
[not found] ` <20091107210147.3e754278-ig7AzVSIIG7kN2dkZ6Wm7A@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-08 18:57 ` Sven-Thorsten Dietrich
[not found] ` <4AF7148C.9090706-IsH+rWyeNGyzjR9+/8zPv5owlv4uC7bZ@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-12 20:12 ` Jean Delvare
2009-11-13 22:03 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-11-14 18:02 ` Jean Delvare
[not found] ` <alpine.LFD.2.00.0911132139560.24119-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-16 15:56 ` Mark Brown
2009-11-16 15:56 ` Mark Brown
[not found] ` <20091116155606.GC29479-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-18 0:50 ` Leon Woestenberg
2009-11-18 0:50 ` Leon Woestenberg
2009-11-18 1:05 ` Alan Cox
[not found] ` <20091118010520.4cd397d4-qBU/x9rampVanCEyBjwyrvXRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-18 16:28 ` Leon Woestenberg
2009-11-18 16:28 ` Leon Woestenberg
2009-11-18 16:52 ` Jean Delvare
[not found] ` <20091118175202.490989d8-ig7AzVSIIG7kN2dkZ6Wm7A@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-18 20:36 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-11-18 20:36 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-11-19 12:05 ` Jean Delvare
[not found] ` <20091119130526.23a69b85-ig7AzVSIIG7kN2dkZ6Wm7A@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-19 12:59 ` Alan Cox
2009-11-19 12:59 ` Alan Cox
[not found] ` <20091119125906.6ad00edd-qBU/x9rampVanCEyBjwyrvXRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-19 13:06 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-11-19 13:06 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-11-19 14:00 ` Jean Delvare [this message]
2009-11-19 14:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-11-19 13:11 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-11-19 13:11 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-11-19 13:21 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-11-19 13:22 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-11-19 13:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-11-18 20:46 ` [PATCH] cleanup sched_yield (sys)call nesting Sven-Thorsten Dietrich
[not found] ` <1258577194.12429.86.camel-ZUMNgey8dAdBci4yedNfAfz91O0DMRRp0E9HWUfgJXw@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-18 20:56 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-11-18 20:56 ` Thomas Gleixner
[not found] ` <alpine.LFD.2.00.0911182153010.24119-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-18 21:04 ` Sven-Thorsten Dietrich
2009-11-18 21:04 ` Sven-Thorsten Dietrich
2009-11-18 21:34 ` Thomas Gleixner
[not found] ` <alpine.LFD.2.00.0911182233510.24119-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-19 4:48 ` Sven-Thorsten Dietrich
2009-11-19 4:48 ` Sven-Thorsten Dietrich
[not found] ` <1258606116.25022.57.camel-ZUMNgey8dAdBci4yedNfAfz91O0DMRRp0E9HWUfgJXw@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-19 10:36 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-11-19 10:36 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-11-19 3:20 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-19 3:20 ` Ingo Molnar
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