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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com>,
	Ananth Mavinakayanahalli <ananth@in.ibm.com>,
	"Frank Ch. Eigler" <fche@redhat.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, utrace-devel@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [RFC,PATCH 14/14] utrace core
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:55:56 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091125145556.GA5394@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091125084617.GD29096@one.firstfloor.org>

On 11/25, Andi Kleen wrote:
>
> > This is subjective, but personally I disagree. Contrary, imho it
> > is good that tracehook hides the (simple) details. I do not understand
> > why the reader of, say, do_fork() should see the contents of
> > tracehook_report_clone_complete(). This will complicate the understanding.
>
> Someone who has to debug or review fork needs to know what's going on.
>
> Yes they can find out by going through inlines, but that
> just costs more time and distracts from the actual problem.
>
> > Those people who want to understand/change fork() do not care about
> > utrace/ptrace usually.
> >
> > And please note that it is much, much easier to change this code
> > when it lives in tracehooks.h instead of sched.c/signal.c/etc.
>
> The problem is that when you have to trace this code when something
> goes wrong the extra layer just holds you up. For debugging usually
> abstraction is a bad idea.
>
> My experience is also that in general such extra "abstraction layers"
> are frowned upon in Linux kernel code style. For example when new
> vendor drivers are submitted for hardware like NICs etc,
> they frequently tend to have all kinds of "abstraction layers".
> Typically the first step to linuxify them is to get rid of those.
>
> This makes the code more readable, shorter, better to debug and read.

OK, let's try to remove these helpers. Let's take a random one,
tracehook_report_exec().

The current code in search_binary_handler:

		if (retval >= 0) {
			if (depth == 0)
				tracehook_report_exec(fmt, bprm, regs);
			put_binfmt(fmt);
			allow_write_access(bprm->file);
			if (bprm->file)
				fput(bprm->file);
			bprm->file = NULL;
			current->did_exec = 1;
			proc_exec_connector(current);
			return retval;
		}

becomes:	

		if (retval >= 0) {
			if (depth == 0) {
				if (unlikely(task_utrace_flags(current) & UTRACE_EVENT(EXEC)))
					utrace_report_exec(fmt, bprm, regs);
				if (!ptrace_event(PT_TRACE_EXEC, PTRACE_EVENT_EXEC, 0) &&
				    unlikely(task_ptrace(current) & PT_PTRACED))
					send_sig(SIGTRAP, current, 0);
			}
			put_binfmt(fmt);
			allow_write_access(bprm->file);
			if (bprm->file)
				fput(bprm->file);
			bprm->file = NULL;
			current->did_exec = 1;
			proc_exec_connector(current);
			return retval;
		}

Cleanup? I don't think so.

OK, when CONFIG_UTRACE goes away, we can kill a lot of old code, and
in tracehooks too. So the code above becomes

		if (retval >= 0) {
			if (depth == 0) {
				if (unlikely(task_utrace_flags(current) & UTRACE_EVENT(EXEC)))
					utrace_report_exec(fmt, bprm, regs);
			}
			put_binfmt(fmt);
			allow_write_access(bprm->file);
			if (bprm->file)
				fput(bprm->file);
			bprm->file = NULL;
			current->did_exec = 1;
			proc_exec_connector(current);
			return retval;
		}

Much better. But in this case please note that most of tracehooks
just do:

		if (unlikely(task_utrace_flags(current) & SOME_EVENT))
			utrace_report_some_event();

I really don't understand why we shouldn't have (trivial!) helpers
for this. (As for naming - personally I do not care at all ;)

You can argue that some tracehooks (say, exit_notify() path) can be
simplified. Yes, we are going to do this. And again, when CONFIG_UTRACE
goes away, we can just kill some tracehooks. Say, most of them in
do_fork() path.

> Because the inlines do not add anything to functionality and actually
> hide what the code does, that is obfuscation.

This applies to any function. As for tracehooks, they mostly hide
"if (task_utrace_flags(current))" check and nothing more.

> For you it might be obvious
> because you've been hacking that code for quite some time, but for
> someone who is not in your position that's different.

Yes, this is true. Let me repeat, I know that this is subjective and
I am biased.

Oleg.


  reply	other threads:[~2009-11-25 15:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-11-24 20:02 [RFC,PATCH 14/14] utrace core Oleg Nesterov
2009-11-24 20:32 ` Andi Kleen
2009-11-24 20:41   ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-11-24 21:26     ` Andi Kleen
2009-11-24 21:31       ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2009-11-24 21:34         ` Andi Kleen
2009-11-24 21:44       ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-11-25  8:46         ` Andi Kleen
2009-11-25 14:55           ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2009-11-25 16:00             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-25 21:50   ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-12-01 23:47   ` Roland McGrath
2009-12-01 19:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-01 22:08   ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-12-07 18:34     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-08 15:04       ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-12-08 15:29         ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-08 16:31           ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-12-08 18:19             ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-08 18:37               ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-12-13 20:48               ` Roland McGrath
2009-12-08 15:35         ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-08 17:51           ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-12-02  5:44   ` Roland McGrath
2009-12-02 18:34   ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-12-02 18:49   ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-12-05 19:14     ` Roland McGrath
2009-12-14  0:25   ` Roland McGrath
2009-12-14 13:51     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-14 17:41       ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-12-14 19:31         ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-12-14 19:42           ` Roland McGrath
2009-12-16 11:18       ` Roland McGrath
2009-12-14 17:03     ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-12-14 19:44       ` Roland McGrath
2009-12-14 20:24         ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-12-15  2:59           ` Roland McGrath

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