From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: "Wang, Shane" <shane.wang@intel.com>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
"Cihula, Joseph" <joseph.cihula@intel.com>,
"arjan@linux.intel.com" <arjan@linux.intel.com>,
"andi@firstfloor.org" <andi@firstfloor.org>,
"chrisw@sous-sol.org" <chrisw@sous-sol.org>,
"jmorris@namei.org" <jmorris@namei.org>,
"jbeulich@novell.com" <jbeulich@novell.com>,
"peterm@redhat.com" <peterm@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] intel_txt: add s3 userspace memory integrity verification
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 09:19:33 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091204081933.GE1540@ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <037F493892196B458CD3E193E8EBAD4F01F03277DF@pdsmsx502.ccr.corp.intel.com>
Hi!
Please wrap mails at column 72 (or so).
> > AFAICT, it verifies userspace _and_ kernel memory, that's why it does
> > magic stack switching. Why not verify everything in tboot?
> Because tboot only can access <4G mem without paging. And the memory is sparse. We can't/needn't set unlimited sparse mem ranges to the MAC array with limited elements in the shared page, in order to pass the parameters.
> On the other hand, it is reasonable for tboot to verify kernel, and kernel to verify userspace memory.
>
Are you sure x86-64 kernel & modules is always below 4GB? I don't
think so.
> >> +static vmac_t mem_mac;
> >> +static struct crypto_hash *tfm;
> >
> > Could these be automatic?
> Maybe, but I don't wish other files can access the variables and take tfm as an example, I'd like to allocate memory to it once and then initialize it once in order to avoid impact of memory change to MACing.
>
You use stack, anyway.
> > Why does 4G limit matter on 64-bit?
> tboot can't access >4G, see above.
Too bad, then its broken by design.
> >> + if (tboot_gen_mem_integrity(tboot->s3_key, &mac))
> >> + panic("tboot: vmac generation failed\n");
> >> + else if (mac != mem_mac)
> >> + panic("tboot: memory integrity was lost on resume\n"); + else
> >> + pr_info("memory integrity OK\n");
> >
> > So I corrupt memory, but also corrupt tboot_enabled() to return 0....
> >
> > And... does panic kill the machine quickly enough that no 'bad stuff'
> > happens? (Whats bad stuff in this context, anyway?).
I'd really like you to answer that.
> >> @@ -244,7 +245,10 @@ static int acpi_suspend_enter(suspend_st
> >> break;
> >>
> >> case ACPI_STATE_S3:
> >> + tboot_switch_stack();
> >> do_suspend_lowlevel();
> >> + tboot_sx_resume();
> >> + tboot_restore_stack();
> >> break;
> >> }
> >>
> >
> > Did you audit all code before sx_resume()? If it trusts data not
> > checksummed by tboot, attacker may be able to hijack code execution
> > and bypass your protection, no?
> Yes, kernel code is audited by tboot before resume.
So no, you did not audit do_suspend_lowlevel to make sure it does not
follow function pointers. Bad.
Pavel
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-12-04 14:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-09-01 8:52 [PATCH] intel_txt: fix the build errors of intel_txt patch on non-X86 platforms (resend) Shane Wang
2009-09-27 9:07 ` [PATCH] intel_txt: add s3 userspace memory integrity verification Shane Wang
2009-09-29 2:27 ` [PATCH] intel_txt: fix the buggy timeout warning logic in tboot Shane Wang
2009-10-04 18:58 ` [PATCH] intel_txt: add s3 userspace memory integrity verification Pavel Machek
2009-10-04 23:26 ` Andi Kleen
2009-10-15 7:57 ` Wang, Shane
2009-12-04 9:07 ` Wang, Shane
2009-12-04 8:19 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2009-12-04 16:46 ` Cihula, Joseph
2009-12-04 17:13 ` Andi Kleen
2009-12-04 17:41 ` Cihula, Joseph
2009-12-04 20:09 ` Andi Kleen
2009-12-04 20:17 ` Cihula, Joseph
2009-12-04 20:31 ` Andi Kleen
2009-12-04 21:27 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-12-04 17:53 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-12-04 20:10 ` Andi Kleen
2009-12-04 22:25 ` Pavel Machek
2009-12-04 22:15 ` Pavel Machek
2009-12-04 22:24 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-12-04 22:39 ` Pavel Machek
2009-12-04 22:46 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-03-09 8:52 ` [PATCH v2] intel_txt: add support for S3 memory integrity protection within Intel(R) TXT launched kernel Wang, Shane
2010-03-09 8:52 ` Wang, Shane
2010-03-09 9:06 ` Pavel Machek
2010-03-09 9:06 ` Pavel Machek
2010-03-10 6:36 ` [PATCH v3] " Shane Wang
2010-03-10 6:36 ` Shane Wang
2010-03-10 20:31 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-10 20:31 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-19 21:18 ` [tip:x86/txt] x86, tboot: Add support for S3 memory integrity protection tip-bot for Shane Wang
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-12-04 9:12 [PATCH] intel_txt: add s3 userspace memory integrity verification Shane Wang
2009-12-04 8:29 ` Pavel Machek
2009-12-04 8:29 ` Pavel Machek
2009-12-04 16:52 ` Cihula, Joseph
2009-12-04 16:52 ` Cihula, Joseph
2009-12-04 22:20 ` Pavel Machek
2009-12-04 22:20 ` Pavel Machek
2009-12-04 11:05 ` Andi Kleen
2009-12-04 11:05 ` Andi Kleen
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