From: Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de>
To: Artem Bityutskiy <Artem.Bityutskiy@nokia.com>
Cc: David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net>,
Jani Nikula <ext-jani.1.nikula@nokia.com>,
dbrownell@users.sourceforge.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
dsilvers@simtec.co.uk, ben@simtec.co.uk,
akpm@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] gpiolib: use chip->names for symlinks, always use gpioN for device names
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 21:46:14 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091211054614.GA23644@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1260509771.12346.138.camel@localhost>
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 07:36:11AM +0200, Artem Bityutskiy wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-12-10 at 20:38 -0800, Greg KH wrote:
> > On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 08:13:58PM -0800, David Brownell wrote:
> > > On Thursday 10 December 2009, Greg KH wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > IMO a "good" solution in this space needs to accept that
> > > > > those names are not going to be globally unique ... but
> > > > > that they'll be unique within some context, of necessity.
> > > > >
> > > > > If Greg doesn't want to see those names under classes,
> > > > > so be it ... but where should they then appear?
> > > >
> > > > As a sysfs file within the device directory called 'name'? ?Then just
> > > > grep through the tree to find the right device, that also handles
> > > > duplicates just fine, right?
> > >
> > > I want a concrete example. Those chip->names things don't
> > > seem helpful to me though...
> > >
> > > If for example I were building a JTAG adapter on Linux, it
> > > might consist of a spidev node (chardev) plus a handful of
> > > GPIOs. So "the device directory" would be the sysfs home
> > > of that spidev node (or some variant)? And inside that
> > > directory would be files named after various signals that
> > > are used as GPIOs ... maybe SRST, TRST, and DETECT to start
> > > with? Holding some cookie that gets mapped to those GPIO's
> > > sysfs entries?
> >
> > Um, I really don't know, as I don't know the GPIO subsystem, nor why you
> > all have this problem in the first place :)
> >
> > I also find it funny that you think changing the kernel is easier than
> > userspace, that's a strange situation.
>
> User-space does not know which GPIO number is what. E.g., is the
> "power_button" GPIO number 6 or 99? It just does not have this
> information.
>
> Kernel knows this, either because it was compiled for a specific board
> revision, or it got this information from the bootloader.
>
> And the whole idea is to make kernel export this name. Currently, the
> kernel exports only the numbers in sysfs, which is not enough.
Then export a file with the name somewhere as well. Why not put that in
the directory you were going to point the symlink at?
> And because gpiolib is designed as it is designed, we found that having
> additional link in /sys/class/gpio is the nicest solution from gpiolib's
> POW. It just fits naturally to the existing design.
>
> And no, we do not have per-gpio struct device, so we cannot add a new
> "name" attribute there. We need to either persuade you to accept our
> solution or make you take closer look at gpoiolib subsystem and suggest
> us the right way to go :-)
If you don't have a struct device, then what are you going to generate a
symlink to?
And sorry, I'm swamped with other work right now, I honestly have no
time to dig into the gpio subsystem.
thanks,
greg k-h
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-12-11 5:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-12-09 13:49 [PATCH 0/3] gpiolib: gpio naming in sysfs Jani Nikula
2009-12-09 13:49 ` [PATCH 1/3] device class: add symlink creation helpers Jani Nikula
2009-12-10 2:49 ` Greg KH
2009-12-09 13:49 ` [PATCH 2/3] gpiolib: add support for having symlinks under gpio class directory Jani Nikula
2009-12-10 2:48 ` Greg KH
2009-12-10 14:32 ` Jani Nikula
2009-12-10 14:49 ` Greg KH
2009-12-10 15:17 ` Kay Sievers
2009-12-10 15:24 ` Greg KH
2009-12-11 8:41 ` Jani Nikula
2009-12-11 15:38 ` Greg KH
2009-12-11 3:35 ` David Brownell
2009-12-09 13:49 ` [PATCH 3/3] gpiolib: use chip->names for symlinks, always use gpioN for device names Jani Nikula
2009-12-11 3:39 ` David Brownell
2009-12-11 3:47 ` Greg KH
2009-12-11 4:13 ` David Brownell
2009-12-11 4:38 ` Greg KH
2009-12-11 5:13 ` David Brownell
2009-12-11 5:18 ` Greg KH
2009-12-11 5:36 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-12-11 5:46 ` Greg KH [this message]
2009-12-11 7:51 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-12-11 15:36 ` Greg KH
2009-12-11 13:23 ` [PATCH]crypto: Fix complain about lack test for internal used algorithm Youquan,Song
2009-12-11 6:04 ` Herbert Xu
2009-12-19 9:40 ` Youquan,Song
2009-12-19 2:29 ` Herbert Xu
2009-12-19 15:07 ` Youquan,Song
2009-12-19 9:42 ` Herbert Xu
2009-12-21 10:38 ` [Resend PATCH]crypto: " Youquan,Song
2009-12-23 11:59 ` Herbert Xu
2009-12-11 5:22 ` [PATCH 3/3] gpiolib: use chip->names for symlinks, always use gpioN for device names Ben Nizette
2009-12-11 5:12 ` Ben Nizette
2009-12-14 11:16 ` Jani Nikula
2009-12-14 22:27 ` Ben Nizette
2009-12-10 0:02 ` [PATCH 0/3] gpiolib: gpio naming in sysfs Andrew Morton
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