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From: Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <bzolnier@gmail.com>
To: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: linville@tuxdriver.com, linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Revised wireless tree management practices
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 20:42:13 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200912142042.13251.bzolnier@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091214.112304.26981627.davem@davemloft.net>

On Monday 14 December 2009 08:23:04 pm David Miller wrote:
> From: Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <bzolnier@gmail.com>
> Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 20:16:00 +0100
> 
> From: Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <bzolnier@gmail.com>
> Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 20:16:00 +0100
> 
> > On Monday 14 December 2009 07:41:24 pm David Miller wrote:
> >> That's not true.  I use "gitk -- net/mac80211" all the time and it's
> >> helped me find bugs.  Or try "gitk -- include/tcp* net/ipv4/tcp*" to
> >> hunt down TCP regressions, etc.
> > 
> > It helps but with more complex ones you're back to guesswork and applying
> > by hand fixes for already fixed ages ago in-the-middle regressions.
> 
> Examples?
> 
> > commit d7fc02c7bae7b1cf69269992cf880a43a350cdaa
> > Merge: ee1262d 28b4d5c
> > Author: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
> > Date:   Tue Dec 8 07:55:01 2009 -0800
> > 
> >     Merge git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/davem/net-next-2.6
> > 
> >     * git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/davem/net-next-2.6: (1815 commits)
> > 
> > with completely insane amount of changes:
> > 
> >  1396 files changed, 113877 insertions(+), 71108 deletions(-)
> > 
> > You may say that I should be following the development as it happens but such
> > strict requirement is not present in any other kernel subsystem tree.
> 
> About 1400 is drivers/net and about 500 is net
> 
> It's going to be a lot of changes no matter how I or John split it
> up.

The problem is not the total number of changes but their amount in one go.

> And guess what's just-as if not even more important?  A unified tree
> makes things easier for me.  So unless you plan on applying 100

[ 100 patches a day?  The math doesn't add up...? ]

> patches a day for me and doing all the cross merges, that's how I plan
> to keep doing things :-)

Oh, feel free to do what works best for you. :)

However looking at "Top non-author signoffs in 2.6.31" [1]:

David S. Miller     964 10.1%
Ingo Molnar         948 9.9%
Greg Kroah-Hartman  582 6.1%
...

it seems that there are people able to do large upstream merges in much
more transparent and reviewer-friendly way so it is not like there exists
some real physical barrier for not even trying to do things better..

[1] http://lwn.net/Articles/348445/
--
Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz

  reply	other threads:[~2009-12-14 19:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-12-09 21:10 Revised wireless tree management practices John W. Linville
2009-12-10  0:51 ` David Miller
2009-12-10 13:38 ` Kalle Valo
2009-12-10 13:47   ` John W. Linville
2009-12-10 14:04     ` Kalle Valo
2009-12-10 14:31       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2009-12-10 14:37         ` John W. Linville
2009-12-10 14:53           ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2009-12-10 15:03             ` John W. Linville
2009-12-10 16:14               ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2009-12-10 16:25                 ` John W. Linville
2009-12-14 12:32                   ` Luciano Coelho
2009-12-14 12:40                     ` David Miller
2009-12-14 13:52                     ` John W. Linville
2009-12-14 14:16 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2009-12-14 14:26   ` John W. Linville
2009-12-14 14:59     ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2009-12-14 15:23       ` David Miller
2009-12-14 16:20         ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2009-12-14 18:03           ` David Miller
2009-12-14 18:24             ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2009-12-14 18:41               ` David Miller
2009-12-14 19:16                 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2009-12-14 19:23                   ` David Miller
2009-12-14 19:42                     ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz [this message]
2009-12-14 19:46                       ` David Miller
2009-12-14 20:09                         ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2009-12-14 15:19     ` David Miller
2009-12-14 16:18       ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz

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