From: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
To: Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>
Cc: "Trond.Myklebust Myklebust" <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no>,
Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>, Steve Dickson <SteveD@redhat.com>,
NFSv3 list <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>,
Mi Jinlong <mijinlong@cn.fujitsu.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] server's statd and lockd will not sync after its nfslock restart
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 15:14:31 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091217201430.GA20185@fieldses.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <35D45F43-D98F-460E-8060-F7C5F3ADFCFE@oracle.com>
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 11:18:53AM -0500, Chuck Lever wrote:
> run_sm_notify() simply forks and execs the sm-notify program. This =20
> program checks for the existence of a pid file. If the pid file exis=
ts,=20
> then sm-notify exits. If it does not, then sm-notify retires the rec=
ords=20
> in /var/lib/nfs/statd/sm and posts reboot notifications.
>
> Jeff Layton pointed out to me yesterday that Red Hat's nfslock script=
=20
> unconditionally deletes sm-notify's pid file every time "service nfsl=
ock=20
> start" is done, which effectively defeats sm-notify's reboot detectio=
n.
>
> sm-notify was written by a developer at SuSE. SuSE Linux uses a tmpf=
s =20
> for /var/run, but Red Hat uses permanent storage for this directory. =
=20
> Thus on SuSE, the pid file gets deleted automatically by a reboot, bu=
t =20
> on Red Hat, the pid file must be deleted "by hand" or reboot =20
> notification never occurs.
>
> So the root cause of this problem is that the current mechanism sm-=20
> notify uses to detect a reboot is not portable across distributions.
>
> My new-statd prototype used a semaphor instead of a pid file to detec=
t =20
> reboots. A semaphor is shared (visible to other processes) and will =
=20
> continue to exist until it is deleted or the system reboots. It is a=
=20
> resource that is not destroyed automatically when the sm-notify proce=
ss=20
> exits. If creating the semaphor fails, sm-notify exits. If creating=
it=20
> succeeds, it runs.
>
> Would anyone strongly object to using a semaphor instead of a pid fil=
e =20
> here? Is support for semaphors always built into kernels? Would the=
re=20
> be any problems with the small size of the semaphor name space? Is t=
here=20
> another similar facility that might be better?
I don't know much about those (except that I think there's an e at the
end); looks like sem_overview(7) is the place to start?
It says:
" Prior to kernel 2.6, Linux only supported unnamed,
thread-shared sema=E2=80=90 phores. On a system with Linux 2.6 and =
a
glibc that provides the NPTL threading implementation, a
complete implementation of POSIX semaphores is provided."
So would it mean dropping support for 2.4?
--b.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-12-17 20:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-12-15 10:02 [RFC] server's statd and lockd will not sync after its nfslock restart Mi Jinlong
2009-12-15 12:41 ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-12-16 9:46 ` Mi Jinlong
2009-12-15 15:10 ` Chuck Lever
2009-12-16 10:27 ` Mi Jinlong
2009-12-16 13:49 ` Jeff Layton
[not found] ` <20091216084902.64f722ad-9yPaYZwiELC+kQycOl6kW4xkIHaj4LzF@public.gmane.org>
2009-12-17 9:34 ` Mi Jinlong
2009-12-16 19:33 ` Chuck Lever
2009-12-17 10:07 ` Mi Jinlong
2009-12-17 16:18 ` Chuck Lever
2009-12-17 20:14 ` J. Bruce Fields [this message]
2009-12-17 20:35 ` Chuck Lever
2009-12-17 20:27 ` Trond Myklebust
2009-12-17 20:34 ` Chuck Lever
2009-12-17 20:48 ` Trond Myklebust
2009-12-17 23:14 ` Neil Brown
[not found] ` <20091218101438.48eb06a4-wvvUuzkyo1EYVZTmpyfIwg@public.gmane.org>
2009-12-18 15:18 ` Chuck Lever
2009-12-19 16:42 ` Steve Dickson
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