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From: Muli Ben-Yehuda <muli@il.ibm.com>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>, Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>,
	Orit Wasserman <oritw@il.ibm.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, Ben-Ami Yassour1 <BENAMI@il.ibm.com>,
	Abel Gordon <ABELG@il.ibm.com>,
	aliguori@us.ibm.com, mdday@us.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/7] Nested VMX patch 1 implements vmon and vmoff
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 17:52:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091221155206.GE2500@il.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4B2E7551.6050201@redhat.com>

On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 09:04:49PM +0200, Avi Kivity wrote:

> >Since VMX was not originally designed to be nested that wouldn't
> >surprise me.
> 
> vmx was designed to correct the non-virtualizability of x86.  It
> would have been criminal to design it without nesting in mind,
> especially given all the prior art.
> 
> vmx does support nesting, albeit not very efficiently.

I would say that VMX only supports nesting if you define "supports" as
"does not make it impossible". The fact that VMX operations in
executed in non-root mode are trapped is welcome, but there's so much
more that could be done in hardware to make nesting "better supported"
that I would hesitate to say that the current generation of VMX
supports nesting.

Cheers,
Muli
-- 
Muli Ben-Yehuda | muli@il.ibm.com | +972-4-8281080
Manager, Virtualization and Systems Architecture
Master Inventor, IBM Research -- Haifa
Second Workshop on I/O Virtualization (WIOV '10):
http://sysrun.haifa.il.ibm.com/hrl/wiov2010/

  reply	other threads:[~2009-12-21 15:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-12-10 18:38 Nested VMX support v4 oritw
2009-12-10 18:38 ` [PATCH 1/7] Nested VMX patch 1 implements vmon and vmoff oritw
2009-12-10 18:38   ` [PATCH 2/7] Nested VMX patch 2 implements vmclear oritw
2009-12-10 18:38     ` [PATCH 3/7] Nested VMX patch 3 implements vmptrld and vmptrst oritw
2009-12-10 18:38       ` [PATCH 4/7] Nested VMX patch 4 implements vmread and vmwrite oritw
2009-12-10 18:38         ` [PATCH 5/7] Nested VMX patch 5 Simplify fpu handling oritw
2009-12-10 18:38           ` [PATCH 6/7] Nested VMX patch 6 implements vmlaunch and vmresume oritw
2009-12-10 18:38             ` [PATCH 7/7] Nested VMX patch 7 handling of nested guest exits oritw
2009-12-17 13:46               ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-17 10:10             ` [PATCH 6/7] Nested VMX patch 6 implements vmlaunch and vmresume Avi Kivity
2009-12-17  9:10           ` [PATCH 5/7] Nested VMX patch 5 Simplify fpu handling Avi Kivity
2009-12-16 14:44         ` [PATCH 4/7] Nested VMX patch 4 implements vmread and vmwrite Avi Kivity
2009-12-16 14:32       ` [PATCH 3/7] Nested VMX patch 3 implements vmptrld and vmptrst Avi Kivity
2009-12-16 13:59     ` [PATCH 2/7] Nested VMX patch 2 implements vmclear Avi Kivity
2009-12-28 14:57     ` Gleb Natapov
2009-12-16 13:34   ` [PATCH 1/7] Nested VMX patch 1 implements vmon and vmoff Avi Kivity
2009-12-20 14:20   ` Gleb Natapov
2009-12-20 14:23     ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-20 14:25       ` Gleb Natapov
2009-12-20 17:08     ` Andi Kleen
2009-12-20 19:04       ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-21 15:52         ` Muli Ben-Yehuda [this message]
2009-12-21 16:00           ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-17 13:49 ` Nested VMX support v4 Avi Kivity

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