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From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca>
To: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC local_t removal V1 0/4] Remove local_t
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 17:45:16 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100105224516.GA32584@Krystal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1001051629550.9108@router.home>

* Christoph Lameter (cl@linux-foundation.org) wrote:
> On Tue, 5 Jan 2010, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> 
> > Yes, removing the local_t type could make sense. However, local_t maps
> > to a volatile long, not just "long". Secondly, I am concerned about the
> > fact that the patch you propose:
> 
> Volatile is discouraged as far as I can tell.

If you want to ensure that a simple variable assignment or read
(local_set, local_read) are not performed piecewise by the compiler
which can cause odd effects when shared with interrupt handlers, this
will however be necessary.


> 
> > - does not create the primitives I use in lttng
> > - only deals with x8
> 
> As I said its an RFC. This provides all the functionality you need
> through. The rest is sugar coating.

OK

> 
> > In lttng (which is out of tree, but widely used), I need the equivalent
> > of:
> >
> > local_read
> > local_set
> > local_add
> > local_cmpxchg
> > local_add_return
> > local_inc
> 
> Please read the patch! This is all provided. add_local_return in the RFC
> provides what is needed to replace local_add, local_inc. We can add these
> explicitly.
> 
> local_cmpxchg replacement is already in there in the form of
> cmpxchg_local().
> 
> > The approach of just doing the x86 implementation and leaving all the
> > other architectures "for later" with a slow/non atomic generic fallback
> > is, imho, a no-go, given that some people (myself, actually) already
> > took the time to go through all the kernel architectures to create the
> > optimized local.h headers. Basically, you are destroying all that work,
> > asking for it to be done all over again.
> 
> AS I said this is an RFC. I can easily generate all these things from the
> existing local.hs for the architectures.
> 
> > I therefore argue that we should keep local.h as-is as long as the
> > replacement lacks the wide architecture support and primitive variety
> > found in local.h.
> 
> Cool down and please review the patch.

OK :)

Mathieu
> 
> 

-- 
Mathieu Desnoyers
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  reply	other threads:[~2010-01-05 22:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-01-05 22:04 [RFC local_t removal V1 0/4] Remove local_t Christoph Lameter
2010-01-05 22:04 ` [RFC local_t removal V1 1/4] Add add_local() and add_local_return() Christoph Lameter
2010-01-05 22:17   ` Mike Frysinger
2010-01-05 22:29     ` Christoph Lameter
2010-01-06 19:23       ` Mike Frysinger
2010-01-07 17:03         ` Christoph Lameter
2010-01-05 22:49   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-07 13:45     ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-01-07 13:57       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-07 14:22         ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-01-07 17:07     ` Christoph Lameter
2010-01-05 22:04 ` [RFC local_t removal V1 2/4] Replace local_t use in trace subsystem Christoph Lameter
2010-01-05 22:57   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-07 17:15     ` Christoph Lameter
2010-01-14  2:56   ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-14 14:49     ` Christoph Lameter
2010-01-05 22:04 ` [RFC local_t removal V1 3/4] Optimized add_local() Christoph Lameter
2010-01-05 22:59   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-07 17:16     ` Christoph Lameter
2010-01-05 22:04 ` [RFC local_t removal V1 4/4] Remove local_t support Christoph Lameter
2010-01-05 22:23 ` [RFC local_t removal V1 0/4] Remove local_t Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-05 22:34   ` Christoph Lameter
2010-01-05 22:45     ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2010-01-07 17:05       ` Christoph Lameter

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