From: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
To: Amit Shah <amit.shah@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5/8] virtio-serial-bus: Add support for buffering guest output, throttling guests
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 01:12:31 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100108011231.GA5011@shareable.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1262849506-27132-6-git-send-email-amit.shah@redhat.com>
Amit Shah wrote:
> Guests send us one buffer at a time. Current guests send buffers sized
> 4K bytes. If guest userspace applications sent out > 4K bytes in one
> write() syscall, the write request actually sends out multiple buffers,
> each of 4K in size.
>
> This usually isn't a problem but for some apps, like VNC, the entire
> data has to be sent in one go to make copy/paste work fine. So if an app
> on the guest sends out guest clipboard contents, it has to be sent to
> the vnc server in one go as the guest app sent it.
>
> For this to be done, we need the guest to send us START and END markers
> for each write request so that we can find out complete buffers and send
> them off to ports.
That looks very dubious. TCP/IP doesn't maintain write boundaries;
neither do pipes, unix domain sockets, pseudo-terminals, and almost
every other modern byte-oriented transport.
So how does VNC transmit the clipboard over TCP/IP to a VNC client,
without those boundaries, and why is it different with virtserialport?
-- Jamie
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-01-08 1:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-01-07 7:31 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/8] virtio-console: Move to qdev, multiple devices, generic ports Amit Shah
2010-01-07 7:31 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/8] virtio: Remove duplicate macro definition for max. virtqueues, bump up the max Amit Shah
2010-01-07 7:31 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/8] virtio-console: qdev conversion, new virtio-serial-bus Amit Shah
2010-01-07 7:31 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/8] virtio-serial-bus: Maintain guest and host port open/close state Amit Shah
2010-01-07 7:31 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/8] virtio-serial-bus: Add a port 'name' property for port discovery in guests Amit Shah
2010-01-07 7:31 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5/8] virtio-serial-bus: Add support for buffering guest output, throttling guests Amit Shah
2010-01-07 7:31 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 6/8] virtio-serial-bus: Add ability to hot-unplug ports Amit Shah
2010-01-07 7:31 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 7/8] virtio-serial: Add a 'virtserialport' device for generic serial port support Amit Shah
2010-01-07 7:31 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 8/8] Move virtio-serial to Makefile.hw Amit Shah
2010-01-08 0:41 ` Andreas Färber
2010-01-08 5:01 ` Amit Shah
2010-01-08 1:12 ` Jamie Lokier [this message]
2010-01-08 5:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5/8] virtio-serial-bus: Add support for buffering guest output, throttling guests Amit Shah
2010-01-08 13:35 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-01-08 16:26 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-11 8:39 ` Amit Shah
2010-01-12 0:28 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-12 7:08 ` Amit Shah
2010-01-11 8:34 ` Amit Shah
2010-01-11 10:45 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-01-11 11:04 ` Amit Shah
2010-01-11 23:33 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-01-12 0:27 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-12 7:16 ` Amit Shah
2010-01-12 15:00 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-12 15:13 ` Amit Shah
2010-01-12 15:46 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-12 15:49 ` Amit Shah
2010-01-12 15:55 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-12 16:04 ` Amit Shah
2010-01-13 17:14 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-01-13 18:31 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-11 19:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/8] virtio: Remove duplicate macro definition for max. virtqueues, bump up the max Anthony Liguori
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-01-14 13:17 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/8] virtio-console: Move to qdev, multiple devices, generic ports Amit Shah
2010-01-14 13:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/8] virtio: Remove duplicate macro definition for max. virtqueues, bump up the max Amit Shah
2010-01-14 13:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/8] virtio-console: qdev conversion, new virtio-serial-bus Amit Shah
2010-01-14 13:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/8] virtio-serial-bus: Maintain guest and host port open/close state Amit Shah
2010-01-14 13:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/8] virtio-serial-bus: Add a port 'name' property for port discovery in guests Amit Shah
2010-01-14 13:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5/8] virtio-serial-bus: Add support for buffering guest output, throttling guests Amit Shah
2010-01-04 17:34 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/8] virtio-console: Move to qdev, multiple devices, generic ports Amit Shah
2010-01-04 17:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/8] virtio: Remove duplicate macro definition for max. virtqueues, bump up the max Amit Shah
2010-01-04 17:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/8] virtio-console: qdev conversion, new virtio-serial-bus Amit Shah
2010-01-04 17:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/8] virtio-serial-bus: Maintain guest and host port open/close state Amit Shah
2010-01-04 17:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/8] virtio-serial-bus: Add a port 'name' property for port discovery in guests Amit Shah
2010-01-04 17:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5/8] virtio-serial-bus: Add support for buffering guest output, throttling guests Amit Shah
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