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From: Luca Berra <bluca-APJUtua8uzqonA0d6jMUrA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: initramfs-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [dracut] Loading of modules that don't have a uevent or pci device: ideas?
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 08:39:11 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100113073911.GB13730@maude.comedia.it> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4B4B465E.4000308-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>

On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 04:40:14PM +0100, Hannes Reinecke wrote:
>
>Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote:
>>>> b) Or utilize xen-detect and load the appropiate modules if we are
>>>> running in Xen PV land. The second is by far much simpler but I don't
>>>> know if more appropiate. I am attaching an example patch to demonstrate
>>>> what I had in mind. (Caveat: I didn't include the pre-requisite for
>>>> xen-tools yet).
>>>>
>>>> c). Another way? Any ideas would be much appreciated.
>>>>
>>> I would favor "modalias" files in /sys, which will be used to modprobe 
>>> the modules with the modalias.
>>> Have a look at this:
>>> $ find /sys -name modalias
>> 
>> I think I did not explain the problem quite well. The modalias values
>> appear after the modules have been loaded. I am at the situation where I am
>> trying to figure out if I should load the modules or not - so the modalias
>> values are not present.
>> 
>D'oh.
>
>But that's exactly the wrong way round.
>The sole reason for having a modalias attribute (in the device) is to facilitate
>module autoloading.
>If the modalias attribute appears _after_ the module has been loaded you might
>want to redesign the module ...

Actually the whole module directory appears _after_ the module is
loaded.

>> The one option that exists right now to detect whether we are running
>> under Xen is to use 'xen-detect', which I think you are OK with?
>> 
>>> I am sure this could be automated in the kernel without the need of extra 
>>> special xen handling with scripts.
>>>
>>>> +xen-detect
>>>> +RC=$?
>>>> +if [ "$RC" = "1" ] ; then
>>> why not?
>>>
>>> if xen-detect ; then ...; fi
>> 
>> Ooh, the patches I've for xen-detect return three different return values.
>> 1 for PV Xen, 2 for HVM Xen, and 0 if no Xen.
>> 
>> Also xen-detect prints this out (depending on the scenario):
>> 
>> Running in HVM context on Xen v4.0.
>> Running in PV context on Xen v4.0.
>> Not running on Xen.
>> 
>> And it looks that 'if xen-detect', the if clause takes under consideration
>> the output - which means that on machines not running Xen it would still jump in the
>> "then" clause.

"if xen-detect" looks at the return code of xen-detect
so it should be
if ! xen-detect; then echo we are running xen;else echo no xen;done

>> I think I am going to modify the xen-detect to accept another flag that would
>> just print a string if it is running in a PV context and nothing else- that
>> should make it easier.
Please don't. return code are much better to parse than text strings

>Easiest bit would be if there were some bits of (virtual) devices, to which the Xen
>drivers could attach to. Doesn't Xen already provide something here?
>
>What does xen-detect do?
>If it's just looking at some sysfs attributes then we can easily build up a udev rule.



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  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-01-13  7:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-12-21 21:26 [dracut] Loading of modules that don't have a uevent or pci device: ideas? Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
     [not found] ` <20091221212600.GA7132-6K5HmflnPlqSPmnEAIUT9EEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2009-12-22 14:28   ` Harald Hoyer
     [not found]     ` <4B30D79F.9080506-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-12-22 15:22       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
     [not found]         ` <20091222152221.GC2785-6K5HmflnPlqSPmnEAIUT9EEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2010-01-11 15:40           ` Hannes Reinecke
     [not found]             ` <4B4B465E.4000308-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2010-01-13  7:39               ` Luca Berra [this message]
2010-01-18  9:12   ` Harald Hoyer

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