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From: Mathieu Desnoyers <compudj@krystal.dyndns.org>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Li Zefan <lizf@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	Lai Jiangshan <laijs@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 03/10] ftrace: Drop the ftrace_profile_enabled checks in tracing hot path
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 23:09:59 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100122040959.GA11827@Krystal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1264129978.31321.333.camel@gandalf.stny.rr.com>

* Steven Rostedt (rostedt@goodmis.org) wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-01-21 at 21:28 -0500, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> > * Steven Rostedt (rostedt@goodmis.org) wrote:
> 
> > > Now for the reason I Cc'd Paul and Mathieu...
> > > 
> > > If we had a synchronize_sched() like function that would wait and return
> > > when all preempted tasks have been scheduled again and went to either
> > > userspace or called schedule directly, then we could actually do this.
> > > 
> > > After unregistering the function graph trace, you call this
> > > "synchronize_tasks()" and it will guarantee that all currently preempted
> > > tasks have either went to userspace or have called schedule() directly.
> > > Then it would be safe to remove this check.
> > 
> > OK, so basically you need to know when you reach a quiescent state, but
> > preemption is enabled and there is no RCU read lock taken around these
> > code paths, am I correct ?
> > 
> > With tracepoints, life is easy because I disable preemption around the
> > calls, so I can use synchronize_sched() to know when quiescent state is
> > reached.
> > 
> > I recommend looking at kernel/kprobes.c:check_safety(). It uses
> > thaw_processes() and synchronize_sched() for this purpose. Basically, it
> > rely on the "refrigeration" points to detect such quiescent state. This
> > trick should do the job for the function graph tracer too.
> > 
> > I'm adding Masami in CC. He is the one who implemented check_safety(),
> > and I remember discussing it with him in the past.
> 
> Hmm, interesting. Maybe something like that might work. But what if
> CONFIG_PREEMPT is enabled but CONFIG_FREEZER is not?

Then you may want to make the function tracer depend on CONFIG_FREEZER,
but maybe Masami has other ideas ?

Mathieu

> 
> -- Steve
> 
> 

-- 
Mathieu Desnoyers
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  reply	other threads:[~2010-01-22  4:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-01-22  1:16 [RFC PATCH 00/10] Ftrace functions hashlist Frederic Weisbecker
2010-01-22  1:16 ` [RFC PATCH 01/10] ftrace: Generalize the function hashlist from function profiler Frederic Weisbecker
2010-01-22  1:16 ` [RFC PATCH 02/10] ftrace: Ensure tracing has really stopped before leaving unregister_ftrace_graph Frederic Weisbecker
2010-01-22  1:51   ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-22  2:04     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-01-22  1:16 ` [RFC PATCH 03/10] ftrace: Drop the ftrace_profile_enabled checks in tracing hot path Frederic Weisbecker
2010-01-22  2:05   ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-22  2:28     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-22  3:12       ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-22  4:09         ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2010-01-22  4:52           ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-22 12:34             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-22 14:54               ` Masami Hiramatsu
2010-01-25 20:58               ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-01-25 22:14                 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2010-01-26  0:41                   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-01-26  1:13                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-26  1:37                       ` Masami Hiramatsu
2010-01-27 21:55                         ` [PATCH tracing/kprobes] kprobes: Disable booster when CONFIG_PREEMPT=y Masami Hiramatsu
2010-01-28  1:08                           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-28  4:21                           ` Ananth N Mavinakayanahalli
2010-01-29  9:21                           ` Ingo Molnar
2010-01-29 11:30                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-29 14:52                             ` Masami Hiramatsu
2010-01-29 17:08                               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-29 17:15                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-29 17:27                                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-29 17:32                                     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2010-01-22  2:43     ` [RFC PATCH 03/10] ftrace: Drop the ftrace_profile_enabled checks in tracing hot path Frederic Weisbecker
2010-01-22  3:05       ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-25 20:52         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-01-22  1:16 ` [RFC PATCH 04/10] ftrace: Ensure buffers are visibles to tracing callbacks right away Frederic Weisbecker
2010-01-22  1:16 ` [RFC PATCH 05/10] ftrace: Drop buffer check in function profiler callbacks Frederic Weisbecker
2010-01-25  6:17   ` Lai Jiangshan
2010-01-30 20:47     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-01-22  1:16 ` [RFC PATCH 06/10] ftrace: Release the function hlist if we don't need it anymore Frederic Weisbecker
2010-01-25  6:41   ` Lai Jiangshan
2010-01-30 21:14     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-01-22  1:16 ` [RFC PATCH 07/10] ftrace: Make the function hashlist concurrently usable Frederic Weisbecker
2010-01-22  1:16 ` [PATCH 08/10] tracing: Simplify test for function_graph tracing Frederic Weisbecker
2010-01-22  1:16 ` [RFC PATCH 09/10] tracing: Use the hashlist for graph function Frederic Weisbecker
2010-01-25  8:50   ` Lai Jiangshan
2010-01-30 21:19     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-01-22  1:16 ` [RFC PATCH 10/10] ftrace: Factorize search and insertion in the function hashlist Frederic Weisbecker

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