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From: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
To: Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no>
Cc: Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>, Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>,
	linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/9] sunrpc: close connection when a request is irretrievably lost.
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 17:34:43 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100203223443.GG13336@fieldses.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1265235610.5217.21.camel@localhost>

On Wed, Feb 03, 2010 at 05:20:10PM -0500, Trond Myklebust wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-02-04 at 08:23 +1100, Neil Brown wrote: 
> > On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 10:43:04 -0500
> > Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > I don't think dropping the connection will cause the client to 
> > > retransmit sooner.  Clients I have encountered will reconnect and 
> > > retransmit only after their retransmit timeout fires, never sooner.
> > > 
> > 
> > I thought I had noticed the Linux client resending immediately, but it would
> > have been a while ago, and I could easily be remembering wrongly.
> 
> It depends on who closes the connection.
> 
> The client assumes that if the _server_ closes the connection, then it
> may be having resource congestion issues. In order to give the server
> time to recover, the client will delay reconnecting for 3 seconds (with
> an exponential back off).
> 
> If, on the other hand, the client was the one that initiated the
> connection closure, then it will try to reconnect immediately.

So, if I understand Neil's patches right:

	- First we try waiting at least one second for the upcall.
	- Then we try to return JUKEBOX/DELAY.  (But if we're still
	  processing the rpc header we may not have the option.)
	- Then we give up and drop the request.

Upcalls shouldn't normally take a second; so something's broken or
congested, whether it's us or our kerberos server.  So telling the
client we're congested sounds right, as does the client response Trond
describes.

--b.

  reply	other threads:[~2010-02-03 22:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-02-03  6:31 [PATCH 0/9] Cache deferal improvements - try++ NeilBrown
     [not found] ` <20100203060657.12945.27293.stgit-wvvUuzkyo1EYVZTmpyfIwg@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-03  6:31   ` [PATCH 1/9] sunrpc: don't keep expired entries in the auth caches NeilBrown
     [not found]     ` <20100203063130.12945.29226.stgit-wvvUuzkyo1EYVZTmpyfIwg@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-15  0:58       ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-02-03  6:31   ` [PATCH 3/9] sunrpc: never return expired entries in sunrpc_cache_lookup NeilBrown
     [not found]     ` <20100203063131.12945.97779.stgit-wvvUuzkyo1EYVZTmpyfIwg@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-17 21:33       ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-03-24  1:22         ` Neil Brown
2010-03-30 15:11           ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-02-03  6:31   ` [PATCH 6/9] sunrpc: close connection when a request is irretrievably lost NeilBrown
2010-02-03 15:43     ` Chuck Lever
2010-02-03 21:23       ` Neil Brown
2010-02-03 22:20         ` Trond Myklebust
2010-02-03 22:34           ` J. Bruce Fields [this message]
2010-02-03 22:40           ` Chuck Lever
2010-02-03 23:13             ` Trond Myklebust
2010-02-04  0:06               ` Chuck Lever
2010-02-04  0:24                 ` Trond Myklebust
2010-02-03 22:34         ` Chuck Lever
2010-02-03  6:31   ` [PATCH 2/9] sunrpc/cache: factor out cache_is_expired NeilBrown
     [not found]     ` <20100203063131.12945.65321.stgit-wvvUuzkyo1EYVZTmpyfIwg@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-15  0:58       ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-02-03  6:31   ` [PATCH 5/9] nfsd/idmap: drop special request deferal in favour of improved default NeilBrown
2010-02-03  6:31   ` [PATCH 9/9] sunrpc/cache: change deferred-request hash table to use hlist NeilBrown
2010-02-03  6:31   ` [PATCH 4/9] sunrpc/cache: allow threads to block while waiting for cache update NeilBrown
2010-04-15 15:55     ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-02-03  6:31   ` [PATCH 7/9] nfsd: factor out hash functions for export caches NeilBrown
     [not found]     ` <20100203063131.12945.38791.stgit-wvvUuzkyo1EYVZTmpyfIwg@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-17 19:35       ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-02-03  6:31   ` [PATCH 8/9] svcauth_gss: replace a trivial 'switch' with an 'if' NeilBrown
2010-02-03 19:43   ` [PATCH 0/9] Cache deferal improvements - try++ J. Bruce Fields

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