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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Corey Ashford <cjashfor@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] [PATCH 1/1] perf: add support for arch-dependent symbolic event names to "perf stat"
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 10:40:37 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100316094037.GF7961@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4B9EC50E.80702@linux.vnet.ibm.com>


* Corey Ashford <cjashfor@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:

> On 3/11/2010 12:46 PM, Corey Ashford wrote:
> >
> >
> >On 3/11/2010 11:14 AM, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> >>
> >>* Corey Ashford<cjashfor@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> >[snip]
> >>>I'm not sure how that would work. The issue I am trying to solve
> >>>here is that Power arch chips have a large number of very
> >>>hardware-specific events that are not generalizable. Many of these
> >>>events not only have names, but other user-configurable bits as well
> >>>that select or narrow the scope of which exact events are recorded.
> >>>This issue is dealt with nicely in libpfm4, as it has mechanisms for
> >>>parsing event names and attributes (aka modifiers or unit masks),
> >>>and then produces a usable config field for the perf_events_attr
> >>>struct.
> >>>
> >>>Should I take it from the above that you are completely against the
> >>>idea of using an external library for hardware-specific event and
> >>>attribute naming?
> >>
> >>Could you give a few relevant examples of events in question, and the
> >>kind of
> >>configurability/attributes they have on Power?
> >
> >Here are a few examples for the Power A2 processor. I've distorted the
> >names because PMU architecture isn't publicly released yet.
> >
> >PM_DE_PMC_9:hrd_mask=0xff:hrd=0x22:pma_mask=0x3fff:pma=0x1b2d:culling_mode=3
> >
> >PM_EX_0x03:lane=2:vlane=1
> >PM_OWE_ENG_MAC_FULL:usu=3
> 
> Just a follow-up note to this...
> 
> I learned that the much of the high-level architecture of the new
> chip that IBM is working on has been publicly released recently, so
> I have "undistorted" the event names below:
> 
> PM_DC_PMC_9:lpid_mask=0xff:lpid=0x22:pid_mask=0x3fff:pid=0x1b2d:marking_mode=3
> PM_REGX_0x03:lane=2:vlane=1
> PM_XML_ENG_MAC_FULL:sus=3
> 
> 
> DC = Decompression/Compression accelerator
> PMC_9 = Peformance monitoring event 9
> REGX = Regular eXpression accelerator
> XML = XML parsing accelerator
> pid = process id to match
> pid_mask = process id match mask
> lpid = logical partition id
> lpid_mask = logical partition id mask
> sus = source unit select
> lane, vlane = signal routing fields
> marking_mode = used to determine which accelerator work units to
> mark for performance monitoring

Are these special-purpose instructions for compression/regex/xml-parsing 
speedups?

I think it would be rather useful to merge the hw (and sw) perf events with 
the ftrace/tracepoints symbolic events space. That would be a one-stop-shop 
for both perf and other tools to figure out the events we offer, their 
characteristics, format, relationship to other events, etc.

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2010-03-16  9:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-04  2:30 [RFC] [PATCH 1/1] perf: add support for arch-dependent symbolic event names to "perf stat" Corey Ashford
2010-03-04 18:39 ` Corey Ashford
2010-03-11 12:46   ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-11 18:47     ` Corey Ashford
2010-03-11 19:14       ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-11 20:46         ` Corey Ashford
2010-03-15 23:38           ` Corey Ashford
2010-03-16  9:40             ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2010-03-16 18:24               ` Corey Ashford
2010-03-12  2:41     ` Paul Mackerras
2010-03-12  6:53       ` Corey Ashford
2010-03-16  9:34       ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-05 17:42 ` Corey Ashford

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