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From: Sheng Yang <sheng@linux.intel.com>
To: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
Cc: Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>,
	"xen-devel" <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>,
	Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@eu.citrix.com>,
	"Yaozu (Eddie) Dong" <eddie.dong@intel.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ian Pratt <Ian.Pratt@eu.citrix.com>,
	Keir Fraser <Keir.Fraser@eu.citrix.com>
Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH][v9 4/6] xen/hvm: Xen PV extension of HVM initialization
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 09:51:48 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201003160951.48973.sheng@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4B9EBBEE.9020107@goop.org>

On Tuesday 16 March 2010 06:59:58 Jeremy Fitzhardinge wrote:
> On 03/15/2010 05:04 AM, Stefano Stabellini wrote:
> >> But we should make sure Xen have ability to support such kind of
> >> operation. The CPUID would show if Xen have such ability, and if it
> >> does, the feature would be enabled unconditionally. Guest kernel always
> >> enable all features it can do unconditionally, but Xen should offer the
> >> support for them.
> >
> > In my opinion once the guest knows that is running on Xen HVM (that is
> > from xen_cpuid_base() or xen_para_available()) it should assume
> > that the pv clocksource is available, therefore XEN_HVM_PV_CLOCK_ENABLED
> > should not be needed.
> > In other words the mere presence of Xen should imply
> > XEN_HVM_PV_CLOCK_ENABLED.
> 
> The only reason why we wouldn't want to do this is if we want to
> withdraw this feature at some point in the future.  We're stuck with it
> indefinitely for PV, but I don't know if that's necessarily going to be
> the case for HVM.  On the other hand, if other - better - mechanisms
> become available, we can give them their own clocksource driver with a
> higher priority than the Xen pvclock one, and users can still select
> clocksources on the kernel command line.

So you think about adding a new XENFEAT?
> 
> > Do you mean write generic code now, then introduce the 64 bit
> > limitation later? Or the other way around?
> > I don't have a strong opinion here so I am OK with both approaches, but
> > I would prefer to add the limitation later (maybe we'll be able to make
> > it work on 32 bit too...).
> 
> Seems like making it work for both 32 and 64-bit is the easiest thing to
>  do.

If it is, it should be fine. But I had encountered some issues on 32 bits.

-- 
regards
Yang, Sheng

  reply	other threads:[~2010-03-16  1:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-12  2:57 [PATCH][v9 0/6] PV extension of HVM (Hybrid) for Xen Sheng Yang
2010-03-12  2:57 ` Sheng Yang
2010-03-12  2:57 ` [PATCH][v9 1/6] xen: add support for hvm_op Sheng Yang
2010-03-12  2:57 ` [PATCH][v9 2/6] xen: Import cpuid.h from Xen Sheng Yang
2010-03-12  2:57 ` [PATCH][v9 3/6] xen: Make pv drivers only work with xen_pv_domain() Sheng Yang
2010-03-12  2:57 ` [PATCH][v9 4/6] xen/hvm: Xen PV extension of HVM initialization Sheng Yang
2010-03-12 20:35   ` [Xen-devel] " Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-03-15  1:45     ` Sheng Yang
2010-03-15 12:04       ` Stefano Stabellini
2010-03-15 22:59         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-03-16  1:51           ` Sheng Yang [this message]
2010-03-16 17:12             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-03-16 17:20               ` Ian Campbell
2010-03-16 17:29                 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-03-12  2:57 ` [PATCH][v9 5/6] x86/xen: The entrance for PV extension of HVM Sheng Yang
2010-03-12  2:57 ` [PATCH][v9 6/6] xen: Enable PV clocksource for HVM Sheng Yang
2010-03-12 20:37   ` [Xen-devel] " Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-03-12 20:37     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge

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