From: Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: Tom Lyon <pugs@lyon-about.com>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/1] uio_pci_generic: extensions to allow access for non-privileged processes
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 18:57:24 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100401165724.GI24846@8bytes.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100401142504.GA6338@redhat.com>
On Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 05:25:04PM +0300, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 05:08:38PM -0700, Tom Lyon wrote:
> > uio_pci_generic has previously been discussed on the KVM list, but this patch
> > has nothing to do with KVM, so it is also going to LKML.
> >
> > The point of this patch is to beef up the uio_pci_generic driver so that a
> > non-privileged user process can run a user level driver for most PCIe
> > devices. This can only be safe if there is an IOMMU in the system with
> > per-device domains.
>
> Why? Per-guest domain should be safe enough.
Hardware IOMMUs don't have something like a per-guest domain ;-)
Anyway, if we want to emulate an IOMMU in the guest and make this
working for pass-through devices too we need more than one domain per
guest. Essentially we may need one domain per device.
> > Privileged users (CAP_SYS_RAWIO) are allowed if there is
> > no IOMMU.
>
> qemu does not support it, I doubt this last option is worth having.
Agreed.
> For this reason, I think we should address the problem somwwhat
> differently:
> - Create a character device to represent the iommu
> - This device will handle memory locking etc
> - Allow binding this device to iommu
> - Allow other operations only after iommu is bound
Yes, something like this is needed. But I think we can implement this in
the generic uio-pci-driver. A seperate interface which basically passes
the iommu-api functions to userspace doesn't make sense because it would
also be device-centric like the uio-pci-driver.
Joerg
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-04-01 16:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-04-01 0:08 [PATCH 0/1] uio_pci_generic: extensions to allow access for non-privileged processes Tom Lyon
2010-04-01 0:12 ` [PATCH 1/1] " Tom Lyon
2010-04-09 9:08 ` Joerg Roedel
2010-04-09 16:27 ` Tom Lyon
2010-04-01 9:09 ` [PATCH 0/1] " Avi Kivity
2010-04-01 15:39 ` Tom Lyon
2010-04-01 15:54 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-01 16:06 ` Tom Lyon
2010-04-01 16:10 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-01 19:24 ` Tom Lyon
2010-04-01 20:21 ` Joerg Roedel
2010-04-02 6:43 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-02 17:05 ` Greg KH
2010-04-09 9:58 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-09 16:34 ` Tom Lyon
2010-04-09 16:48 ` [PATCH 0/1] uio_pci_generic: extensions to allow access for?non-privileged processes Joerg Roedel
2010-04-09 17:43 ` [PATCH 0/1] uio_pci_generic: extensions to allow access for non-privileged processes Avi Kivity
2010-04-09 20:09 ` [PATCH 0/1] uio_pci_generic: extensions to allow access for?non-privileged processes Chris Wright
2010-04-09 20:05 ` [PATCH 0/1] uio_pci_generic: extensions to allow access for non-privileged processes Chris Wright
2010-04-01 21:27 ` Tom Lyon
2010-04-02 6:44 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-01 12:52 ` Joerg Roedel
2010-04-01 15:40 ` Tom Lyon
2010-04-01 16:07 ` Joerg Roedel
2010-04-01 19:18 ` Tom Lyon
2010-04-01 20:09 ` Joerg Roedel
2010-04-01 14:25 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-04-01 16:02 ` Tom Lyon
2010-04-01 16:57 ` Joerg Roedel [this message]
2010-04-01 19:08 ` Hans J. Koch
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