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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
Cc: Dmitry Torokhov <dtor@vmware.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, pv-drivers@vmware.com,
	Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
	Dan Magenheimer <dan.magenheimer@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] VMware Balloon driver
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 15:17:20 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100405151720.8a6ac5e3.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4BBA5E1C.10706@goop.org>

On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 15:03:08 -0700
Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org> wrote:

> On 04/05/2010 02:24 PM, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > I think I've forgotten what balloon drivers do.  Are they as nasty a
> > hack as I remember believing them to be?
> >    
> 
> (I haven't looked at Dmitry's patch yet, so this is from the Xen 
> perspective.)
> 
> In the simplest form, they just look like a driver which allocates a 
> pile of pages, and the underlying memory gets returned to the 
> hypervisor.  When you want the memory back, it reattaches memory to the 
> pageframes and releases the memory back to the kernel.  This allows a 
> virtual machine to shrink with respect to its original size.
> 
> Going the other way - expanding beyond the memory allocation - is a bit 
> trickier because you need to get some new page structures from 
> somewhere.   We don't do this in Xen yet, but I've done some experiments 
> with hotplug memory to implement this.  Or a simpler approach is to fake 
> up some reserved E820 ranges to grow into.
> 

Lots of stuff for Dmitry to add to his changelog ;)

> > A summary of what this code sets out to do, and how it does it would be
> > useful.
> >
> > Also please explain the applicability of this driver.  Will xen use it?
> > kvm?  Out-of-tree code?
> >    
> The basic idea of the driver is to allow a guest system to give up 
> memory it isn't using so it can be reused by other virtual machines (or 
> the host itself).

So...  does this differ in any fundamental way from what hibernation
does, via shrink_all_memory()?


  reply	other threads:[~2010-04-05 22:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-04 21:52 [PATCH] VMware Balloon driver Dmitry Torokhov
2010-04-05 21:24 ` Andrew Morton
2010-04-05 22:03   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-04-05 22:17     ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2010-04-05 22:26       ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-05 22:40         ` Andrew Morton
2010-04-05 23:01           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-04-05 23:03           ` Dan Magenheimer
2010-04-05 23:11             ` Andrew Morton
2010-04-05 23:28               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-04-06 16:28           ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-05 23:28       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-04-05 23:34         ` Andrew Morton
2010-04-06  0:26           ` Dan Magenheimer
2010-04-06 16:30           ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-06 17:27             ` Dan Magenheimer
2010-04-06 23:20         ` Dave Hansen
2010-04-05 22:58   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-04-06 16:32     ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-06 17:06       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-04-06 17:42         ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-06 18:25       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-04-06 18:36         ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-06 19:18           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-04-08  5:30             ` Pavel Machek
2010-04-08  7:18               ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-08 17:01               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-04-15 21:00   ` [PATCH v2] " Dmitry Torokhov
2010-04-21 19:59     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-04-21 20:18       ` Andrew Morton
2010-04-21 20:52         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-04-21 21:13           ` Andrew Morton
2010-04-22  0:09             ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-04-21 23:54     ` Andrew Morton
2010-04-22  0:00       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-04-22  1:02         ` [Pv-drivers] " Dmitry Torokhov

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