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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: David Stevens <dlstevens@us.ibm.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, kvm-owner@vger.kernel.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, rusty@rustcorp.com.au,
	virtualization@lists.osdl.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] Add Mergeable receive buffer support to vhost_net
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 11:35:59 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100408083559.GA10958@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <OF09358937.789A275B-ON882576FE.0067E654-882576FE.007405B5@us.ibm.com>

On Wed, Apr 07, 2010 at 02:07:18PM -0700, David Stevens wrote:
> kvm-owner@vger.kernel.org wrote on 04/07/2010 11:09:30 AM:
> 
> > On Wed, Apr 07, 2010 at 10:37:17AM -0700, David Stevens wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks!
> > > > There's some whitespace damage, are you sending with your new
> > > > sendmail setup? It seems to have worked for qemu patches ...
> > > 
> > >         Yes, I saw some line wraps in what I received, but I checked
> > > the original draft to be sure and they weren't there. Possibly from
> > > the relay; Sigh.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > > @@ -167,8 +166,15 @@ static void handle_tx(struct vhost_net *
> > > > >        /* TODO: Check specific error and bomb out unless ENOBUFS? 
> */
> > > > >        err = sock->ops->sendmsg(NULL, sock, &msg, len);
> > > > >        if (unlikely(err < 0)) {
> > > > > -         vhost_discard_vq_desc(vq);
> > > > > -         tx_poll_start(net, sock);
> > > > > +         if (err == -EAGAIN) {
> > > > > +            vhost_discard_desc(vq, 1);
> > > > > +            tx_poll_start(net, sock);
> > > > > +         } else {
> > > > > +            vq_err(vq, "sendmsg: errno %d\n", -err);
> > > > > +            /* drop packet; do not discard/resend */
> > > > > +            vhost_add_used_and_signal(&net->dev, vq, head,
> > > > > +                       0);
> > > > 
> > > > vhost does not currently has a consistent error handling strategy:
> > > > if we drop packets, need to think which other errors should cause
> > > > packet drops.  I prefer to just call vq_err for now,
> > > > and have us look at handling segfaults etc in a consistent way
> > > > separately.
> > > 
> > > I had to add this to avoid an infinite loop when I wrote a bad
> > > packet on the socket. I agree error handling needs a better look,
> > > but retrying a bad packet continuously while dumping in the log
> > > is what it was doing when I hit an error before this code. Isn't
> > > this better, at least until a second look?
> > > 
> > 
> > Hmm, what do you mean 'continuously'? Don't we only try again
> > on next kick?
> 
>         If the packet is corrupt (in my case, a missing vnet header
> during testing), every send will fail and we never make progress.
> I had thousands of error messages in the log (for the same packet)
> before I added this code.

Hmm, we do not want a buggy guest to be able to fill
host logs. This is only if debugging is enabled though, right?
We can also rate-limit the errors.

> If the problem is with the packet,
> retrying the same one as the original code does will never recover.
>         This isn't required for mergeable rx buffer support, so I
> can certainly remove it from this patch, but I think the original
> error handling doesn't handle a single corrupted packet very
> gracefully.
> 

An approach I considered was to have qemu poll vq_err fd
and stop the device when an error is seen. My concern with
dropping a tx packet is that it would make debugging
very difficult.


> > > > > @@ -222,31 +242,25 @@ static void handle_rx(struct vhost_net *
> > > > >     vq_log = unlikely(vhost_has_feature(&net->dev, 
> VHOST_F_LOG_ALL)) ?
> > > > >        vq->log : NULL;
> > > > > 
> > > > > -   for (;;) {
> > > > > -      head = vhost_get_vq_desc(&net->dev, vq, vq->iov,
> > > > > -                ARRAY_SIZE(vq->iov),
> > > > > -                &out, &in,
> > > > > -                vq_log, &log);
> > > > > +   while ((datalen = vhost_head_len(sock->sk))) {
> > > > > +      headcount = vhost_get_desc_n(vq, vq->heads, datalen, &in,
> > > > > +                    vq_log, &log);
> > > > 
> > > > This looks like a bug, I think we need to pass
> > > > datalen + header size to vhost_get_desc_n.
> > > > Not sure how we know the header size that backend will use though.
> > > > Maybe just look at our features.
> > > 
> > >         Yes; we have hdr_size, so I can add it here. It'll be 0 for
> > > the cases where the backend and guest both have vnet header (either
> > > the regular or larger mergeable buffers one), but should be added
> > > in for future raw socket support.
> > 
> > So hdr_size is the wrong thing to add then.
> > We need to add non-zero value for tap now.
> 
>         datalen includes the vnet_hdr in the tap case, so we don't need
> a non-zero hdr_size. The socket data has the entire packet and vnet_hdr
> and that length is what we're getting from vhost_head_len().

I only see vhost_head_len returning skb->len. You are sure skb->len
includes vnet_hdr for tap rx?

> > 
> > > > 
> > > > >        /* OK, now we need to know about added descriptors. */
> > > > > -      if (head == vq->num) {
> > > > > -         if (unlikely(vhost_enable_notify(vq))) {
> > > > > +      if (!headcount) {
> > > > > +         if (retries == 0 && unlikely(vhost_enable_notify(vq))) {
> > > > >              /* They have slipped one in as we were
> > > > >               * doing that: check again. */
> > > > >              vhost_disable_notify(vq);
> > > > > +            retries++;
> > > > >              continue;
> > > > >           }
> > > > 
> > > > Hmm. The reason we have the code at all, as the comment says, is 
> because
> > > > guest could have added more buffers between the time we read last 
> index
> > > > and the time we enabled notification. So if we just break like this
> > > > the race still exists. We could remember the
> > > > last head value we observed, and have vhost_enable_notify check
> > > > against this value?
> > > 
> > >         This is to prevent a spin loop in the case where we have some
> > > buffers available, but not enough for the current packet (ie, this
> > > is the replacement code for the "rxmaxheadcount" business). If they
> > > actually added something new, retrying once should see it, but what
> > > vhost_enable_notify() returns non-zero on is not "new buffers" but
> > > rather "not empty". In the case mentioned, we aren't empty, so
> > > vhost_enable_notify() returns nonzero every time, but the guest hasn't
> > > given us enough buffers to proceed, so we continuously retry; this
> > > code breaks the spin loop until we've really got new buffers from
> > > the guest.
> > 
> > What about the race I point out above? It seems to potentially
> > cause a deadlock.
> 
>         It certainly handles a single race, since the code is identical
> when retries==0. I was assuming that a real update would always get us
> enough buffers, so could not happen twice in a row. The false case of
> having 1 buffer when we need 3, say, would return nonzero every time,
> so this code would detect that and break that loop; never hang if a
> real guest update gives us a full ring.
>         If we think we've exhausted the ring and a guest update gives us
> a couple buffers, but not the complete ring (which is what it does in
> practice), then we'd still have a race. In that case, we should be
> comparing avail_idx with itself across multiple calls, rather than
> last_avail_idx (which is only updated when we post a new packet).
>         I'll look at this some more. With the guest I have, this code
> will always work, but I don't know that the guest is required to fill
> the ring, which is what this assumes.

I think it is legal for a guest to add buffers one by one.
My suggesting for handling this is to cache last value of available
index we have seen so that vhost_enable_notify returns
true if it changed meanwhile.

Care needs to be taken when index is changed with an ioctl.

> > 
> > > > 
> > > > Need to think about it.
> > > > 
> > > > Another concern here is that on retries vhost_get_desc_n
> > > > is doing extra work, rescanning the same descriptor
> > > > again and again. Not sure how common this is, might be
> > > > worthwhile to add a TODO to consider this at least.
> > > 
> > >         I had a printk in there to test the code and with the
> > > retries counter, it happens when we fill the ring (once,
> > > because of the retries checks), and then proceeds as
> > > desired when the guest gives us more buffers. Without the
> > > check, it spews until we hear from the guest.
> > 
> > I don't understand whether what you write above means 'yes this happens
> > and is worth optimizing for' or 'this happens very rarely
> > and is not worth optimizing for'.
> 
>         I'm saying "no",

OK then.

> even with high load, we don't hit the
> retries==1 very often with the new code. It only happens when the ring
> is completely full. In that case, with the old code, we would spin until 
> we
> hear from the guest (tens of thousands of times); with the new code,
> we hit it once when the ring is full and wait for the guest to give
> us more buffers; then we proceed.
>         With the new code in a test run of tens of millions of packets,
> I got maybe 5 or 6 times where we exhausted the ring and waited, but
> with the old code, we did enable/disable tens of thousands of times
> because the ring wasn't completely empty and we were spinning until
> we got new buffers from the guest.
> 

I presume under old code you mean some previous version of
merg. buffers patch? I don't see where current upstream would spin
waiting for guest (because a single descriptor is always
enough to fit a packet in), if we have this must fix ASAP.

> > > > > -         vhost_discard_vq_desc(vq);
> > > > > +         vhost_discard_desc(vq, headcount);
> > > > >           break;
> > > > >        }
> > > > >        /* TODO: Should check and handle checksum. */
> > > > > +      if (vhost_has_feature(&net->dev, VIRTIO_NET_F_MRG_RXBUF)) {
> > > > > +         struct virtio_net_hdr_mrg_rxbuf *vhdr =
> > > > > +            (struct virtio_net_hdr_mrg_rxbuf *)
> > > > > +            vq->iov[0].iov_base;
> > > > > +         /* add num_buffers */
> > > > > +         if (vhost_has_feature(&net->dev,
> > > > > +                     VHOST_NET_F_VIRTIO_NET_HDR))
> > > > > +            hdr.num_buffers = headcount;
> > > > 
> > > > Why is the above necessary?
> > > 
> > >         This adds mergeable buffer support for the raw case.
> > 
> > So my suggestion is to have a copy of the header
> > and then same code will fill in the field for
> > both raw and tap.
> 
>         The recvmsg() has written the vnethdr into the user
> buffer in the tap case. We don't have an in-kernel copy of it at
> all (hdr_size == 0) in vhost. In the raw case, recvmsg isn't writing it
> to the user buffer and then we do have the local copy in hdr.
>         So the code updates num_buffer (only) in user space in
> the tap case, and does the necessary copy of the entire header
> in the raw case. I don't think a double copy of the entire vnet_hdr
> on every packet is a good idea in the tap case,

Right. But what I suggested only copies the num_buffer.

> and the simple
> assignment with the existing copy_to_user() of the header is
> cheaper than double-copying num_buffers in the raw case.

Here I disagree. I think a single write to a buffer that
we know is in cache will be cheaper than a branch.
It's also less codelines :)

> So, I
> do think this code is best. It could use hdr_size instead of
> the (in-line) feature-bit check, but there are no unnecessary
> copies as-is, and I think there would be if we don't use the
> two separate ways of updating num_buffers.

A 2 byte copy is almost free.

> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > +            vq_err(vq, "tiny buffers < %d unsupported",
> > > > > +               vq->iov[0].iov_len);
> > > > > +            vhost_discard_desc(vq, headcount);
> > > > > +            break;
> > > > 
> > > > Problem here is that recvmsg might modify iov.
> > > > This is why I think we need to use vq->hdr here.
> > > 
> > >         rcvmsg() can never modify the iovec;
> > 
> > 
> > Look at af_packet code for an example where it does.
> > The pointer is non-const, it's OK to modify.
> > tap used to modify iovec as well, the fact it doesn't
> > now is a side-effect of reusing same code for
> > recvmsg and aio read.
> 
>         OK, even assuming it can, the check is done after
> the recvmsg -- it can't change between the length check
> and the put_user() of num_buffer, so I'm not sure what
> your concern is here. Are you saying that vq->iov may
> be trashed so that it no longer points to the ring buffer?

recvmsg updates at least the length.

>         What I need is to write the num_buffer value at
> offset 10 in the userspace ring buffer after the recvmsg().
> If the iovec has been modified, I'm using the modified.
> If you're saying that it may be garbage, then your suggestion
> is that I save the pointer to offset 10 of the ring buffer
> before the call to recvmsg so I can update it after?

Essentially, yes. Upstream code (move_iovec_hdr) assumes that header
size we might need to save is same as size we hide from backend,
but here it is different.  If we generalize move_iovec_hdr to something like
the below (warning: completely untested, likely has integer overflow
or other problems), then I think it will do what we want,
so that memcpy_toiovecend will work:

/* Copy len bytes, and pop the first pop_len bytes from iovec.
 * Arguments must satisfy pop_len <= len.
 * Return number of segments used. */
static int move_iovec_hdr(struct iovec *from, struct iovec *to,
                          size_t len, size_t pop_len, int iov_count)
{
        int seg = 0;
        size_t size;
        while (len && seg < iov_count) {
                size = min(from->iov_len, len);
                to->iov_base = from->iov_base;
                to->iov_len = size;
                if (pop_len > 0) {
                        from->iov_len -= size;
                        from->iov_base += size;
                        pop_len -= size;
                }
                len -= size;
                ++from;
                ++to;
                ++seg;
        }
        return seg;
}


> > > To use vq->hdr, we'd have to copy
> > > it in from user space, modify it, and then copy it back
> > > in to user space, on every packet. In the normal tap case,
> > > hdr_size is 0 and we read it directly from the socket to
> > > user space. It is already correct for mergeable buffers,
> > > except for the num_buffers value added here.
> > 
> > 
> > I don't understand what you write above, sorry.
> > We have iov, all we need is store the first address+length
> > in the hdr field.
> 
> Sorry, in that discussion, I was confusing "hdr" with vq->hdr.
> In the tap case, hdr_size is 0 and we have nothing in vq->hdr.
> As discussed before, if you mean updating a local copy of the
> header, we don't have a local copy of the header -- recvmsg()
> has written it directly to the user buffer. To get a local
> copy, we'd need to either copy_from_user() out of the ring or
> get it from recvmsg() by changing the iovec and then later
> do an extra copy of it to get it in the user buffer where we
> need it.

Yes but we only need to update 2 bytes in userspace memory.
Don't touch anything else.

> > 
> > > > 
> > > > How about using
> > > >    memcpy_toiovecend(vq->hdr, &headcount,
> > > >            offsetof(struct virtio_net_hdr_mrg_rxbuf, num_buffers),
> > > >            sizeof headcount);
> > > > 
> > > > this way we also do not make any assumptions about layout.
> > > 
> > >         Because this overwrites the valid vnet header we got from
> > > the tap socket with a local copy that isn't correct.
> > 
> > It does? I think that this only writes out 2 bytes at an offset.
> 
>         Oh, sorry, I misread. vq->hdr doesn't have anything in it in
> the tap case, but something like this may eliminate the need to check
> iov_len > sizeof(*vhdr); will investigate.
> 
> 
>                                                         +-DLS
> 

      reply	other threads:[~2010-04-08  8:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-06 20:32 [PATCH v3] Add Mergeable receive buffer support to vhost_net David L Stevens
2010-04-07 10:59 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-04-07 11:35   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-04-07 17:37   ` David Stevens
2010-04-07 18:09     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-04-07 21:07       ` David Stevens
2010-04-08  8:35         ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]

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