From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com>
Cc: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com>,
"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH -mm 3/3] proc: make task_sig() lockless
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 21:50:42 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100412195042.GA14108@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100409195936.44663BD18@magilla.sf.frob.com>
On 04/09, Roland McGrath wrote:
>
> > Yes. From the changelog:
> >
> > Of course, this means we read pending/blocked/etc nonatomically,
> > but I hope this is OK for fs/proc.
> >
> > But I don't think the returned data could be "really" inconsistent
> > from the /bin/ps pov. Yes, it is possible that, say, some signal is
> > seen as both pending and ignored without ->siglock. Or we can report
> > user->sigpending != 0 while pending/shpending are empty.
> >
> > But this looks harmless to me. We never guaranteed /proc/pid/status
> > can't report the "intermediate" state, and I don't think we can
> > confuse the user-space.
> >
> > Do you agree? Or do you think this can make problems ?
>
> I'm not so sure. Operations like sigprocmask and sigaction really have
> always been entirely atomic from the userland perspective before. Now it
> becomes possible to read from /proc e.g. a blocked set that never existed
> as such (one word updated by sigprocmask but not yet the next word).
Yes, /proc/pid/status can report the intermediate state, I even sent
the updated changelog to document this.
But if you are not sure this is OK, I am worried. Do you think we should
drop this patch? If yes, I won't argue.
Oleg.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-04-12 19:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-03-22 18:41 [PATCH -mm 3/3] proc: make task_sig() lockless Oleg Nesterov
2010-03-23 8:30 ` David Howells
2010-03-23 8:37 ` David Howells
2010-03-23 10:57 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-03-24 8:37 ` David Howells
2010-03-24 15:00 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-04-09 19:59 ` Roland McGrath
2010-04-10 8:16 ` David Howells
2010-04-12 19:50 ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2010-04-13 6:30 ` Roland McGrath
2010-04-13 20:00 ` Oleg Nesterov
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