From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Greg KH Subject: Re: [RFC/PATCH 0/2] u_char.c and mtp.c patches Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 16:57:22 -0700 Message-ID: <20100420235722.GB6542@kroah.com> References: <1268123742-22968-1-git-send-email-felipe.balbi@nokia.com> <20100419162611.GA15131@nokia.com> <20100419200727.GC27643@nokia.com> <20100419224451.GE1800@kroah.com> <20100420062241.GA5427@nokia.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Return-path: Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100420062241.GA5427@nokia.com> Sender: linux-embedded-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Felipe Balbi Cc: ext Linus Walleij , Linux USB Mailing List , "Krogerus Heikki (EXT-Teleca/Helsinki)" , "Quadros Roger (Nokia-D/Helsinki)" , "Kaliuta Yauheni (Nokia-D/Helsinki)" , "Mandy Arnaud.2 (EXT-Teleca/Helsinki)" , David Brownell , linux-embedded , Tim Bird , "libmtp-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net" On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 09:22:41AM +0300, Felipe Balbi wrote: > On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 12:44:51AM +0200, ext Greg KH wrote: > >If you know the patent numbers, please send them to me. There are very > >simple methods of routing around patents. Also, the USB-IF is very > >interested in patents that cover USB related things, as they could > >possibly violate the USB-IF agreement that companies are forced to sign > >to join it. > > you might have better contacts than I do. Last time I contacted them > regarding MS problems - at that time, I was complaining that Windows > doesn't fetch all config descriptors - they replied that "other > devices have passed USB Certification, so why can't you?" > > It's too bad when the Specification authority doesn't want to hear > about mis-implementations of their own specification. Anyways... > > Take a look here: > > http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/connect/usb/os_desc.mspx > > it doesn't say the patent number but it does say that "Microsoft > agrees to grant a nonexclusive, royalty-free, world-wide license > under these copyrights, patents or applications solely to implement > the Microsoft OS Descriptor Specification to interface with (i) a > Microsoft OS Descriptor enabled operating system or (ii) other > systems authorized by Microsoft to retrieve and use this > information, on condition that you agree not to assert any > intellectual property rights against Microsoft or other companies > for their implementation of the Specification." > > We just need to check whether Linux falls into the "other systems > authorized by Microsoft" category. I would guess not :-p It might, now that Microsoft has code in the Linux kernel :) I'll ask around and see what I can find out. thanks, greg k-h