From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
Sridhar Samudrala <sri@us.ibm.com>,
netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Dmitri Vorobiev <dmitri.vorobiev@movial.com>,
Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] workqueue: Add an API to create a singlethread workqueue attached to the current task's cgroup
Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 19:39:54 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100527163954.GA21710@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4BFE9ABA.6030907@kernel.org>
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 06:15:54PM +0200, Tejun Heo wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On 05/27/2010 03:12 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> >> I don't understand the reasons for this patch, but this doesn't matter.
> >
> > Depending on userspace application, driver can create a lot of work
> > for a workqueue to handle. By making the workqueue thread
> > belong in a cgroup, we make it possible to the CPU and other
> > resources thus consumed.
>
> Hmmm.... I don't really get it. The unit of scheduling in workqueue
> is a work.
Yes. However, we use cgroups to limit when the workqueue itself is scheduled.
This affects all of work done on this workqueue, so it's a bit
of a blunt intrument. Thus we are not trying to apply this
to all drivers, we intend to start with vhost-net.
> Unless you're gonna convert every driver to use this
> special kind of workqueue (and what happens when multiple tasks from
> different cgroups share the driver?),
We'll then create a workqueue per task. Each workqueue will have the
right cgroup. But we are not trying to selve the problem for
every driver.
> I can't see how this is gonna be
> useful. If you really wanna impose cgroup control on workqueue items,
> you'll have to do it per work item which might lead to the problem of
> priority inversion.
Exactly. cgroup is per-workqueue not per work item.
If driver wants to let administrators control priority
for different kinds of items separately, driver will have
to submit them to separate workqueues.
> Can you please describe what you're trying to do
> in more detail?
>
> Thank you.
vhost-net driver is under control from userspace,
it queues potentially a lot of work into the workqueue, which
might load the system beyond the cgroup limits.
And staying within cgroups limits is important for virtualization
where vhost is used.
> --
> tejun
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-05-27 16:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 115+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-05-19 0:04 [PATCH 2/3] workqueue: Add an API to create a singlethread workqueue attached to the current task's cgroup Sridhar Samudrala
2010-05-27 9:14 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-05-27 12:44 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-05-27 13:12 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-05-27 13:48 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-05-27 16:15 ` Tejun Heo
2010-05-27 16:39 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2010-05-27 16:56 ` Tejun Heo
2010-05-27 17:32 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-05-27 21:20 ` Tejun Heo
2010-05-28 15:08 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-05-28 15:54 ` Tejun Heo
2010-05-30 11:29 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-05-30 20:24 ` [PATCH 1/3] vhost: replace vhost_workqueue with per-vhost kthread Tejun Heo
2010-05-31 14:39 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-05-31 15:07 ` Tejun Heo
2010-05-31 15:31 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-05-31 15:38 ` Tejun Heo
2010-05-31 15:22 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-05-31 15:45 ` Tejun Heo
2010-05-31 16:00 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-06-01 9:34 ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-02 18:40 ` [PATCH UPDATED " Tejun Heo
2010-06-02 21:34 ` Sridhar Samudrala
2010-07-22 15:58 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-07-22 21:21 ` Tejun Heo
2010-07-24 19:14 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-07-25 7:41 ` Tejun Heo
2010-07-25 10:04 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-07-26 15:25 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-07-26 15:34 ` Tejun Heo
2010-07-26 15:46 ` Tejun Heo
2010-07-26 15:51 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-07-26 15:50 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-07-26 16:05 ` Tejun Heo
2010-07-26 16:14 ` Tejun Heo
2010-07-26 16:31 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-07-26 18:51 ` Tejun Heo
2010-07-26 19:57 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-07-27 8:18 ` Tejun Heo
2010-07-26 16:51 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-07-26 19:14 ` Tejun Heo
2010-07-26 19:31 ` Tejun Heo
2010-07-26 19:59 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-07-27 19:19 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-07-28 7:48 ` Tejun Heo
2010-07-28 10:48 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-07-28 12:00 ` Tejun Heo
2010-07-26 16:57 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-07-26 16:23 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-07-26 19:04 ` Tejun Heo
2010-07-26 20:19 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-07-27 8:21 ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-01 9:34 ` [PATCH 2/3] cgroups: Add an API to attach a task to current task's cgroup Tejun Heo
2010-06-01 9:35 ` [PATCH 3/3] vhost: apply cpumask and cgroup to vhost workers Tejun Heo
2010-06-01 10:17 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-06-01 10:56 ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-01 17:19 ` Sridhar Samudrala
2010-06-01 23:59 ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-01 14:13 ` [PATCH 1/3] vhost: replace vhost_workqueue with per-vhost kthread Paul E. McKenney
2010-05-30 20:24 ` [PATCH 2/3] cgroups: Add an API to attach a task to current task's cgroup Tejun Heo
2010-05-31 1:07 ` Li Zefan
2010-05-31 7:00 ` Tejun Heo
2010-05-30 20:25 ` [PATCH 3/3] vhost: apply cpumask and cgroup to vhost pollers Tejun Heo
2010-05-31 1:11 ` Li Zefan
2010-05-31 6:58 ` [PATCH UPDATED " Tejun Heo
2010-05-31 7:48 ` Li Zefan
2010-05-31 10:20 ` [PATCH UPDATED2 " Tejun Heo
2010-06-24 8:11 ` [PATCH " Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-06-24 22:45 ` Sridhar Samudrala
2010-06-25 10:10 ` [PATCH] sched: export sched_set/getaffinity (was Re: [PATCH 3/3] vhost: apply cpumask and cgroup to vhost pollers) Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-07-01 11:07 ` [PATCH repost] sched: export sched_set/getaffinity to modules Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-07-01 11:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-07-01 11:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-07-01 11:55 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-07-01 12:23 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-07-01 12:34 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-07-01 12:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-07-01 13:08 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-07-01 13:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-07-01 13:39 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-07-01 13:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-07-01 14:27 ` Tejun Heo
2010-07-01 14:46 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-07-01 14:53 ` Tejun Heo
2010-07-01 14:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-07-02 18:01 ` Sridhar Samudrala
2010-07-02 18:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-07-02 21:06 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-07-04 9:00 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-07-13 6:59 ` Sridhar Samudrala
2010-07-13 11:09 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-07-14 23:26 ` Sridhar Samudrala
2010-07-15 0:05 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-07-15 5:29 ` Sridhar Samudrala
2010-07-26 17:12 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-07-26 17:51 ` Sridhar Samudrala
2010-07-26 18:08 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-07-26 19:55 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-07-26 20:27 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-07-27 4:55 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-08-04 10:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-07-27 15:41 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-07-30 14:19 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-07-30 14:31 ` Tejun Heo
2010-08-01 8:50 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-08-02 15:02 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-07-01 14:33 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-07-01 12:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-07-01 12:50 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-07-01 13:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-07-01 13:22 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-05-27 16:24 ` [PATCH 2/3] workqueue: Add an API to create a singlethread workqueue attached to the current task's cgroup Sridhar Samudrala
2010-05-27 16:41 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-05-27 17:30 ` Oleg Nesterov
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