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From: Paul Millar <paul.millar@desy.de>
To: Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>
Cc: linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: A couple of questions
Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 20:06:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201005312006.47321.paul.millar@desy.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100527160044.GD3835@think>

Hi Chris,

On Thursday 27 May 2010 18:00:44 Chris Mason wrote:
> I'd suggest that you look at T10 DIF and DIX, which are targeted at
> exactly this kind of thing.  We're looking at integrating dif/dix into
> btrfs at some point.

I've been keeping half-an-eye on T10's work in ensuring end-to-end integrity.  
That you guys are planning to integrate dif/dix support is certainly welcome 
news!

In my use-case (a file-server that receives a new file from a remote client),  
I believe that, to ensure end-to-end integrity,  the server software would 
have to push the client-supplied checksum into the FS when writing a new file.  
(I believe there's some T10 slides somewhere that show this use-case) -- or 
(equivalently) the server software obtains the FS checksum for the file and 
matches it against the client-supplied value.

I'm deliberately taking the simplest case when the client has chosen the same 
checksum algorithm as the FS uses.  In reality, this may not be the case, but 
we can probably cope with that.

My concern is that, if the server-software doesn't push the client-provided 
checksum then the FS checksum (plus T-10 DIF/DIX) would not provide a rigorous 
assurance that the bytes are the same.  Without this assurance, corruption 
could still occur; for example, within the server's memory.

> We haven't looked at adler32.  crc32c was chosen because it is supported
> in hardware by recent intel CPUs.

OK, fair enough :)

Cheers,

Paul.

  reply	other threads:[~2010-05-31 18:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-27 13:39 A couple of questions Paul Millar
2010-05-27 14:56 ` Hubert Kario
2010-05-31 17:59   ` Paul Millar
2010-06-02 16:19     ` Hubert Kario
2010-05-27 16:00 ` Chris Mason
2010-05-31 18:06   ` Paul Millar [this message]
2010-05-31 20:33     ` Mike Fedyk
2010-06-02 11:56       ` Paul Millar
2010-06-01 13:39     ` Martin K. Petersen
2010-06-02 13:40       ` Paul Millar
2010-06-04  1:17         ` Martin K. Petersen
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-04-18 11:51 Imre Simon
2005-04-18 15:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-18 16:23   ` Paul Jackson
2002-05-17 15:27 Steve Pratt
2002-05-17 13:11 berthiaume_wayne
2002-05-17 16:03 ` Kuba Ober
2002-05-16 18:48 Steve Pratt
2002-05-16 18:44 Steve Pratt
2002-05-16 18:55 ` Oleg Drokin
2002-05-16 20:33 ` Hans Reiser
2002-05-16 21:23   ` Kuba Ober
2002-05-16 21:44     ` Lehmann 
2002-05-16 23:57       ` Hans Reiser
2002-05-17  0:45         ` Philipp Gühring
2002-05-17  1:06           ` Manuel Krause
2002-05-17 15:21           ` Kuba Ober
2002-05-17  0:17       ` Manuel Krause
2002-05-17 15:04       ` Kuba Ober
2002-05-18 20:40         ` Hans Reiser
2002-05-17 15:05       ` Kuba Ober
2002-05-16 21:44     ` Lehmann 
2002-05-17 13:10     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2002-05-17 15:35       ` Kuba Ober
2002-05-16 15:11 Steve Pratt
2002-05-16 15:35 ` Oleg Drokin
2002-05-16 14:52 Steve Pratt
2002-05-16 15:13 ` Hans Reiser
2002-05-15 21:22 Steve Pratt
2002-05-16  5:20 ` Oleg Drokin
2002-05-16  9:42   ` Hans Reiser
2002-05-16 11:40     ` Oleg Drokin
2002-05-16 11:54       ` Hans Reiser
2001-10-10 11:28 Adil EL YOUSSEFI
2001-10-10 12:11 ` David Woodhouse
1999-03-02 13:11 Neil Booth
1999-03-15 18:58 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-03-15 22:46   ` neil
1999-03-16 12:22     ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-03-16  2:11   ` Andrea Arcangeli

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