From: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
To: mtk.manpages@gmail.com
Cc: OGAWA Hirofumi <hirofumi@mail.parknet.co.jp>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch] pipe: add support for shrinking and growing pipes
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 09:48:05 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100601074805.GM1660@kernel.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinHkWCdrOGZHbVGN4ooen9--z5rl5UL65wXcFEy@mail.gmail.com>
On Tue, May 25 2010, Michael Kerrisk wrote:
> On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 7:56 PM, Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com> wrote:
> > On Mon, May 24 2010, Michael Kerrisk wrote:
> >> On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 7:35 PM, Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com> wrote:
> >> > On Mon, May 24 2010, Michael Kerrisk wrote:
> >> >> > Right, that looks like a thinko.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I'll submit a patch changing it to bytes and the agreed API and fix this
> >> >> > -Eerror. Thanks for your comments and suggestions!
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks. And of course you are welcome. (Please CC linux-api@vger on
> >> >> this patche (and all patches that change the API/ABI.)
> >> >
> >> > The first change is this:
> >> >
> >> > http://git.kernel.dk/?p=linux-2.6-block.git;a=commit;h=0191f8697bbdfefcd36e7b8dc3eeddfe82893e4b
> >> >
> >> > and the one dealing with the pages vs bytes API is this:
> >> >
> >> > http://git.kernel.dk/?p=linux-2.6-block.git;a=commit;h=b9598db3401282bb27b4aef77e3eee12015f7f29
> >> >
> >> > Not tested yet, will do so before sending in of course.
> >>
> >> Eyeballing it quickly, these changes look right.
> >
> > Good, thanks.
> >
> >> Do you have some test programs you can make available?
> >
> > Actually I don't, I test it by modifying fio's splice engine to set/get
> > the pipe size and test the resulting transfers.
>
> Two more questions: is the rationale for this feature written up
> somewhere? I could not find it. Is it primarily intended for
> splice/vmsplice/tee, with the effect for pipe(2) being a side effect?
Yes it's primarily for splice, where the 64kb size can sometimes become
a limiting factor because of the pipe mutex lock/unlocking.
> Also, the minuimum size of the buffer is 2 pages. Why is it not 1?
> (Notwithstanding Linus's assertion, a buffer size of 1 page did give
> us POSIX compliance in kernels before 2.6.10.)
I'll defer to Linus on that, I remember some emails on that part from
way back when. As far as I can tell, POSIX wants atomic writes of "less
than a page size", which would make more sense as "of a page size and
less". And since it should not be a page size from either side on a
uni-directional pipe, then 1 page seems enough for that guarantee at
least.
--
Jens Axboe
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-06-01 7:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-05-19 16:45 [patch] pipe: add support for shrinking and growing pipes Miklos Szeredi
2010-05-19 16:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-19 18:05 ` Jens Axboe
2010-05-19 19:05 ` Jens Axboe
2010-05-20 8:33 ` Miklos Szeredi
2010-05-20 8:37 ` Jens Axboe
2010-05-20 17:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-20 17:48 ` Jens Axboe
2010-05-21 17:13 ` Rick Sherm
2010-05-23 5:30 ` Michael Kerrisk
2010-05-23 2:38 ` Andrew Morton
2010-05-23 5:52 ` Michael Kerrisk
2010-05-23 7:09 ` Jens Axboe
2010-05-23 9:24 ` Michael Kerrisk
2010-05-23 17:47 ` Jens Axboe
2010-05-24 1:43 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2010-05-24 4:43 ` Michael Kerrisk
2010-05-24 4:43 ` Michael Kerrisk
2010-05-24 7:05 ` Jens Axboe
2010-05-24 7:27 ` Michael Kerrisk
2010-05-24 7:27 ` Michael Kerrisk
2010-05-24 17:35 ` Jens Axboe
2010-05-24 17:52 ` Michael Kerrisk
2010-05-24 17:56 ` Jens Axboe
2010-05-25 4:01 ` Michael Kerrisk
2010-06-01 7:48 ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2010-06-01 15:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-06-01 16:36 ` Loke, Chetan
2010-05-27 6:49 ` Michael Kerrisk
2010-06-01 7:45 ` Jens Axboe
2010-06-02 19:25 ` Michael Kerrisk
2010-06-03 6:10 ` Jens Axboe
2010-06-03 6:46 ` Michael Kerrisk
2010-06-03 7:01 ` Jens Axboe
2010-06-03 7:01 ` Jens Axboe
2010-06-03 7:05 ` Michael Kerrisk
2010-06-03 7:05 ` Michael Kerrisk
2010-06-03 7:48 ` Michael Kerrisk
2010-06-03 7:48 ` Michael Kerrisk
2010-06-03 7:58 ` Michael Kerrisk
2010-06-03 7:58 ` Michael Kerrisk
2010-06-03 8:29 ` Michael Kerrisk
2010-06-03 8:53 ` Michael Kerrisk
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[not found] ` <AANLkTincO5thcP-yASUtIV41TtY3ZmG9YSU-J5nT2sFg@mail.gmail.com>
2010-06-03 11:11 ` Jens Axboe
[not found] ` <4C078610.6020901@fusionio.com>
[not found] ` <AANLkTinhO5oRDPXyXaeAOZU3i55eBKsx4iFMOzwm98na@mail.gmail.com>
[not found] ` <AANLkTin_8MU3AbJ_KeXr2uTxtRFJ5ABmBAyigU6m-C6u@mail.gmail.com>
2010-06-03 11:12 ` Jens Axboe
2010-06-03 11:32 ` Miklos Szeredi
2010-06-03 11:37 ` Jens Axboe
2010-06-03 12:45 ` Miklos Szeredi
2010-06-03 12:50 ` Jens Axboe
2010-06-19 5:45 ` Michael Kerrisk
2010-06-19 18:13 ` Jens Axboe
2010-06-20 5:37 ` Michael Kerrisk
2010-06-03 16:06 ` Miklos Szeredi
2010-05-24 7:04 ` Jens Axboe
2010-05-24 7:28 ` Michael Kerrisk
2010-05-24 7:28 ` Michael Kerrisk
2010-05-24 7:49 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2010-05-24 14:51 ` Brian Bloniarz
2010-05-24 15:43 ` Michael Kerrisk
2010-05-24 7:46 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2010-05-24 17:15 ` Jens Axboe
2010-05-24 18:12 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2010-05-24 18:16 ` Michael Kerrisk
2010-05-20 12:52 ` Andi Kleen
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