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From: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
To: Kees Cook <kees.cook@canonical.com>
Cc: Eric Paris <eparis@redhat.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@xenotime.net>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>,
	Dave Young <hidave.darkstar@gmail.com>,
	Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Tim Gardner <tim.gardner@canonical.com>,
	"Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] fs: allow protected cross-uid sticky symlinks
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 20:01:02 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100601190102.GT31073@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100601185248.GB4098@outflux.net>

On Tue, Jun 01, 2010 at 11:52:48AM -0700, Kees Cook wrote:
> A long-standing class of security issues is the symlink-based
> time-of-check-time-of-use race, most commonly seen in world-writable
> directories like /tmp. The common method of exploitation of this flaw
> is to cross privilege boundaries when following a given symlink (i.e. a
> root process follows a symlink belonging to another user).  For a likely
> incomplete list of hundreds of examples across the years, please see:
> http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvekey.cgi?keyword=/tmp
> 
> The solution is to permit symlinks to only be followed when outside a sticky
> world-writable directory, or when the uid of the symlink and follower match,
> or when the directory owner matches the symlink's owner.
> 
> Some pointers to the history of earlier discussion that I could find:

I don't buy it.  If we are concerned about the symlinks in the middle of
pathname, your checks are useless (mkdir /tmp/a, ln -s whatever /tmp/a/b,
have victim open /tmp/a/b/something).  If we are not, then your checks are
in the wrong place.

"The more we prohibit, the safer we are" is best left to the likes of TSA;
if we are really interested in security and not in security theatre or
BDSM fetishism, let's make sure that heuristics we use make sense.

  reply	other threads:[~2010-06-01 19:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-06-01 18:52 [PATCH v3] fs: allow protected cross-uid sticky symlinks Kees Cook
2010-06-01 19:01 ` Al Viro [this message]
2010-06-01 21:07   ` Kees Cook
2010-06-01 21:45     ` Al Viro
2010-06-01 22:20       ` Kees Cook

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