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From: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
To: Srivatsa Vaddagiri <vatsa@in.ibm.com>
Cc: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>, Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org, hpa@zytor.com,
	mingo@elte.hu, npiggin@suse.de, tglx@linutronix.de,
	mtosatti@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] use unfair spinlock when running on hypervisor.
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 10:52:51 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100603085251.GA4166@basil.fritz.box> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100603042051.GA5953@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On Thu, Jun 03, 2010 at 09:50:51AM +0530, Srivatsa Vaddagiri wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 02, 2010 at 12:00:27PM +0300, Avi Kivity wrote:
> > 
> > There are two separate problems: the more general problem is that
> > the hypervisor can put a vcpu to sleep while holding a lock, causing
> > other vcpus to spin until the end of their time slice.  This can
> > only be addressed with hypervisor help.
> 
> Fyi - I have a early patch ready to address this issue. Basically I am using
> host-kernel memory (mmap'ed into guest as io-memory via ivshmem driver) to hint 
> host whenever guest is in spin-lock'ed section, which is read by host scheduler 
> to defer preemption.

Looks like a ni.ce simple way to handle this for the kernel.

However I suspect user space will hit the same issue sooner
or later. I assume your way is not easily extensable to futexes?

> One pathological case where this may actually hurt is routines in guest like 
> flush_tlb_others_ipi() which take a spinlock and then enter a while() loop
> waiting for other cpus to ack something. In this case, deferring preemption just
> because guest is in critical section actually hurts! Hopefully the upper bound
> for deferring preemtion and the fact that such routines may not be frequently
> hit should help alleviate such situations.

So do you defer during the whole spinlock region or just during the spin?

I assume the the first?

-Andi
-- 
ak@linux.intel.com -- Speaking for myself only.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-06-03  8:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-06-01  9:35 [PATCH] use unfair spinlock when running on hypervisor Gleb Natapov
2010-06-01 15:53 ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-01 16:24   ` Gleb Natapov
2010-06-01 16:38     ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-01 16:52       ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-01 17:27         ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-02  2:51           ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-02  5:26             ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-06-02  8:50             ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-02  9:00               ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-03  4:20                 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-06-03  4:51                   ` Eric Dumazet
2010-06-03  5:38                     ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-06-03  8:52                   ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2010-06-03  9:26                     ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-06-03 10:22                     ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-03 10:38                   ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-03 12:04                     ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-06-03 12:38                       ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-03 12:58                         ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-06-03 13:04                           ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-06-03 13:45                           ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-03 14:48                             ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-06-03 15:17                         ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-03 15:35                           ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-03 17:25                             ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-01 17:39         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2010-06-02  2:46           ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-02  7:39           ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-06-01 17:54         ` john cooper
2010-06-01 19:36           ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-03 11:06             ` David Woodhouse
2010-06-03 15:15               ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-01 21:39         ` Eric Dumazet

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