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From: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
To: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>
Cc: hch@lst.de, viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch v2] fix truncate inode time modification breakage
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 21:49:57 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100603114957.GJ6822@laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1OK87y-0007RX-5Q@pomaz-ex.szeredi.hu>

On Thu, Jun 03, 2010 at 12:58:22PM +0200, Miklos Szeredi wrote:
> On Thu, 3 Jun 2010, Nick Piggin wrote:
> > You'll have to be careful, truncate will pass other things down like
> > mode to get rid of suid.
> 
> Oh, right.
> 
> > If you just wanted to ignore mtime changes on truncate, then masking
> > it off would be the way to go I think.
> > 
> > if (valid & ATTR_SIZE)
> >   valid &= ~ATTR_SIZE;
> > 
> > Would you also want to do the same thing with suid kill bits from
> > truncate, then? Mask off ATTR_MODE and just read it back from the
> > server too?
> 
> That would be logical, but no, it didn't used to do that, and now it
> can't start doing it for fear of creating a security hole.

OK.

 
> Also suid removal happens very rarely compared to mtime update, so a
> rare additional chmod request (which might be superfluous for some
> filesystems) in addition to write and truncate is I think acceptable.

Yeah no big deal. One little thing to put on the list if you ever need
bump the protocol version.

 
> (In fact I think it would be cleanest if truncate/ftruncate was a
> separate operation from setattr on all levels, but that's a different
> story.)

Well it's possible. It is a combination of inode and address space
operation really. Because you really want to update mtime/ctime and
suid bits iff the truncate succeeds.

We did consider a new API for it, but it didn't seem to be an
obvious improvement. A filesystem can easily branch into another
function for ATTR_SIZE immediately on setattr entry.

 
> So for now something like
> 
> 	if (valid & ATTR_SIZE)
> 		valid &= ~(ATTR_MTIME | ATTR_CTIME);
> 
> would work?

That should do the trick, yes. But I think CTIME would just confuse
things seeing as you ignore it everywhere else.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-06-03 11:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-06-01 13:39 [patch] fix truncate inode time modification breakage Nick Piggin
2010-06-01 13:48 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-01 13:56   ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-02 19:55     ` [patch v2] " Nick Piggin
2010-06-02 20:08       ` Filesystem setattr/truncate notes and problems Nick Piggin
2010-06-03  7:28         ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-03  7:32           ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-03  9:50             ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-03  9:18           ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-03  9:26         ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-03  8:18       ` [patch v2] fix truncate inode time modification breakage Miklos Szeredi
2010-06-03  8:40         ` Boaz Harrosh
2010-06-03  9:05           ` Miklos Szeredi
2010-06-03 12:13             ` Boaz Harrosh
2010-06-03  9:14         ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-03  9:28           ` Miklos Szeredi
2010-06-03 10:07             ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-03 10:58               ` Miklos Szeredi
2010-06-03 11:09                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-03 12:01                   ` [patch v3] " Nick Piggin
2010-06-03 11:49                 ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2010-06-03 12:03                   ` [patch v2] " Miklos Szeredi
2010-06-01 14:10 ` [patch] " Boaz Harrosh
2010-06-01 14:32   ` Nick Piggin

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