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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [patch 16/18] oom: badness heuristic rewrite
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 16:02:16 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100608160216.bc52112b.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100608194533.7657.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com>

On Tue,  8 Jun 2010 20:41:56 +0900 (JST)
KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com> wrote:

>
> ...
>
> > --- a/mm/oom_kill.c
> > +++ b/mm/oom_kill.c
> > @@ -4,6 +4,8 @@
> >   *  Copyright (C)  1998,2000  Rik van Riel
> >   *	Thanks go out to Claus Fischer for some serious inspiration and
> >   *	for goading me into coding this file...
> > + *  Copyright (C)  2010  Google, Inc.
> > + *	Rewritten by David Rientjes
> 
> don't put it.
> 

Seems OK to me.  It's a fairly substantial change and people have added
their (c) in the past for smaller kernel changes.  I guess one could even
do this for a one-liner.

>
> ...
>
> >  	/*
> > -	 * Niced processes are most likely less important, so double
> > -	 * their badness points.
> > +	 * The memory controller may have a limit of 0 bytes, so avoid a divide
> > +	 * by zero if necessary.
> >  	 */
> > -	if (task_nice(p) > 0)
> > -		points *= 2;
> 
> You removed 
>   - run time check
>   - cpu time check
>   - nice check
> 
> but no described the reason. reviewers are puzzled. How do we review
> this though we don't get your point? please write
> 
>  - What benerit is there?
>  - Why do you think no bad effect?
>  - How confirm do you?

yup.

> 
> > +	if (!totalpages)
> > +		totalpages = 1;
> >  
> >  	/*
> > -	 * Superuser processes are usually more important, so we make it
> > -	 * less likely that we kill those.
> > +	 * The baseline for the badness score is the proportion of RAM that each
> > +	 * task's rss and swap space use.
> >  	 */
> > -	if (has_capability_noaudit(p, CAP_SYS_ADMIN) ||
> > -	    has_capability_noaudit(p, CAP_SYS_RESOURCE))
> > -		points /= 4;
> > +	points = (get_mm_rss(p->mm) + get_mm_counter(p->mm, MM_SWAPENTS)) * 1000 /
> > +			totalpages;
> > +	task_unlock(p);
> >  
> >  	/*
> > -	 * We don't want to kill a process with direct hardware access.
> > -	 * Not only could that mess up the hardware, but usually users
> > -	 * tend to only have this flag set on applications they think
> > -	 * of as important.
> > +	 * Root processes get 3% bonus, just like the __vm_enough_memory()
> > +	 * implementation used by LSMs.
> >  	 */
> > -	if (has_capability_noaudit(p, CAP_SYS_RAWIO))
> > -		points /= 4;
> > +	if (has_capability_noaudit(p, CAP_SYS_ADMIN))
> > +		points -= 30;
> 
> 
> CAP_SYS_ADMIN seems no good idea. CAP_SYS_ADMIN imply admin's interactive
> process. but killing interactive process only cause force logout. but
> killing system daemon can makes more catastrophic disaster.
> 
> 
> Last of all, I'll pulled this one. but only do cherry-pick.
> 

This change was unchangelogged, I don't know what it's for and I don't
understand your comment about it.

Apart from that, I'm doing great!


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  reply	other threads:[~2010-06-08 23:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-06-06 22:33 [patch 00/18] oom killer rewrite David Rientjes
2010-06-06 22:34 ` [patch 01/18] oom: check PF_KTHREAD instead of !mm to skip kthreads David Rientjes
2010-06-07 12:12   ` Balbir Singh
2010-06-07 19:50     ` David Rientjes
2010-06-08 19:33   ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-08 23:40     ` David Rientjes
2010-06-08 23:52       ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-06 22:34 ` [patch 02/18] oom: introduce find_lock_task_mm() to fix !mm false positives David Rientjes
2010-06-07 12:58   ` Balbir Singh
2010-06-07 13:49     ` Minchan Kim
2010-06-07 19:49       ` David Rientjes
2010-06-08 19:42   ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-08 20:14     ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-08 20:17       ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-08 21:34         ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-08 23:50     ` David Rientjes
2010-06-06 22:34 ` [patch 03/18] oom: dump_tasks use find_lock_task_mm too David Rientjes
2010-06-08 19:55   ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-09  0:06     ` David Rientjes
2010-06-06 22:34 ` [patch 04/18] oom: PF_EXITING check should take mm into account David Rientjes
2010-06-08 20:00   ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-06 22:34 ` [patch 05/18] oom: give current access to memory reserves if it has been killed David Rientjes
2010-06-08 11:41   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-08 18:47     ` David Rientjes
2010-06-14 11:08       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-08 20:12     ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-13 11:24       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-08 20:08   ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-09  0:14     ` David Rientjes
2010-06-06 22:34 ` [patch 06/18] oom: avoid sending exiting tasks a SIGKILL David Rientjes
2010-06-08 11:41   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-08 18:48     ` David Rientjes
2010-06-08 20:17   ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-08 20:26   ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-09  6:32     ` David Rientjes
2010-06-09 16:25       ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-09 19:44         ` David Rientjes
2010-06-09 20:14           ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-10  0:15             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-06-10  1:21               ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-10  1:43                 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-06-10  1:51                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-06 22:34 ` [patch 07/18] oom: filter tasks not sharing the same cpuset David Rientjes
2010-06-08 11:41   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-08 18:51     ` David Rientjes
2010-06-08 19:27       ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-13 11:24         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-07-02 22:35           ` Andrew Morton
2010-07-04 22:08             ` David Rientjes
2010-07-09  3:00             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-08 20:23   ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-09  0:25     ` David Rientjes
2010-06-06 22:34 ` [patch 08/18] oom: sacrifice child with highest badness score for parent David Rientjes
2010-06-08 11:41   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-08 18:53     ` David Rientjes
2010-06-08 20:33   ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-09  0:30     ` David Rientjes
2010-06-06 22:34 ` [patch 09/18] oom: select task from tasklist for mempolicy ooms David Rientjes
2010-06-08 11:41   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-08 21:08   ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-08 21:17     ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-09  0:46     ` David Rientjes
2010-06-08 23:43   ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-09  0:40     ` David Rientjes
2010-06-06 22:34 ` [patch 10/18] oom: enable oom tasklist dump by default David Rientjes
2010-06-08 11:42   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-08 18:56     ` David Rientjes
2010-06-08 21:13   ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-09  0:52     ` David Rientjes
2010-06-06 22:34 ` [patch 11/18] oom: avoid oom killer for lowmem allocations David Rientjes
2010-06-08 11:42   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-08 21:19   ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-06 22:34 ` [patch 12/18] oom: extract panic helper function David Rientjes
2010-06-08 11:42   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-06 22:34 ` [patch 13/18] oom: remove special handling for pagefault ooms David Rientjes
2010-06-08 11:42   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-08 18:57     ` David Rientjes
2010-06-08 21:27   ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-06 22:34 ` [patch 14/18] oom: move sysctl declarations to oom.h David Rientjes
2010-06-08 11:42   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-06 22:34 ` [patch 15/18] oom: remove unnecessary code and cleanup David Rientjes
2010-06-06 22:34 ` [patch 16/18] oom: badness heuristic rewrite David Rientjes
2010-06-08 11:41   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-08 23:02     ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2010-06-13 11:24       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-17  5:14       ` David Rientjes
2010-06-21 11:45         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-21 20:47           ` David Rientjes
2010-06-30  9:26             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-17  5:12     ` David Rientjes
2010-06-21 11:45       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-08 22:58   ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-17  5:32     ` David Rientjes
2010-06-06 22:34 ` [patch 17/18] oom: add forkbomb penalty to badness heuristic David Rientjes
2010-06-08 11:41   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-08 23:15   ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-06 22:35 ` [patch 18/18] oom: deprecate oom_adj tunable David Rientjes
2010-06-08 11:42   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-08 19:00     ` David Rientjes
2010-06-08 23:18     ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-13 11:24       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-17  3:36         ` David Rientjes
2010-06-21 11:45           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-21 20:54             ` David Rientjes

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