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From: mark gross <640e9920@gmail.com>
To: Bryan Huntsman <bryanh@codeaurora.org>
Cc: linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	mark gross <640e9920@gmail.com>,
	markgross@thegnar.org
Subject: Re: PM QoS dynamic resource manager
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 20:05:25 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100609030525.GD26668@gvim.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4C0ECC38.2000003@codeaurora.org>

On Tue, Jun 08, 2010 at 04:03:20PM -0700, Bryan Huntsman wrote:
> >>http://lkml.org/lkml/2010/4/22/213  (I guess the details are in the
> >>archives)  I'm happy to re-visit it.
> >>
> >
> >Interesting patch, it looks like having a "system wide bus" doesn't
> >easily apply to msm and tegra platforms.
> >An example of some things I would like to be able to control are i2c
> >and memory bus.
> >
> >I'm tempted to suggest adding two types memory and i2c but I'm not
> >sure how future proof this will be given the growing complexity in the
> >embedded hardware road-map.
> >What about the possibility of registering not one but several buses?
> >You could add a bus qos param, with a type enum, or bind to some
> >platform_driver or bus_driver
> >
> >Then there's the issue of having to deal with platform specific buses,
> >do you add this type to pm qos with only one user? Or have some
> >platform bus types defined somewhere. The generic code of min / max
> >for resource X can be useful so everyone doesn't spin their own
> >resource framework in their own architecture.
> >
> >-- Mike
> 
> Mike, one idea I'm exploring is having platform-specific busses with
> QoS constraints specified via runtime_pm as part of the LDM.  Adding
> dynamic class creation within pm_qos, or a type enum as you suggest,
> would work.  However, I think this kind of behavior would fit nicely
> within runtime_pm.
>

Something like that is what Kevin Hilman was thinking too.  It would
bring a qos concept to the LDM for each bus driver object.  Picking what
qos parameters to use (I recommend latency and bandwidth) and how "local"
the parameters effect of these bus_qos interfaces are.  

They are not the same as the more global system wide pm_qos parameters,
and they would be unlikely things ever exposed to usermode.

Yes I think something like this is inevitable and will happen.  But we
need some good applications to roll out the idea with.  (I think.)

--mgross
 

  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-06-09  3:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-21 21:37 PM QoS dynamic resource manager Chidambaram, Praveen
2010-05-25 14:52 ` mark gross
2010-05-25 16:19   ` Chidambaram, Praveen
2010-06-08  0:18   ` Mike Chan
2010-06-08  3:33     ` mark gross
2010-06-08 14:44       ` Chidambaram, Praveen
2010-06-09  2:55         ` mark gross
2010-06-08 18:58       ` Mike Chan
2010-06-08 23:03         ` Bryan Huntsman
2010-06-08 23:35           ` Mike Chan
2010-06-08 23:48             ` Bryan Huntsman
2010-06-09  3:05           ` mark gross [this message]
2010-06-10  0:53             ` Mike Chan
2010-06-10  1:22               ` Bryan Huntsman
2010-06-11 13:55               ` mark gross
2010-06-11 14:12             ` Kevin Hilman
2010-06-17 22:32               ` Kevin Hilman
2010-06-18  5:57                 ` Huntsman, Bryan
2010-06-22 23:34                   ` mark gross
2010-07-18 12:57                   ` mark gross
2010-07-18 15:03                     ` James Bottomley
2010-07-19  1:46                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-07-19  6:38                         ` James Bottomley
2010-07-19 13:50                           ` Matthew Garrett
2010-08-10 16:24                 ` Kevin Hilman

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