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From: Tvrtko Ursulin <tvrtko@ursulin.net>
To: Thanasis <thanasis@asyr.hopto.org>
Cc: netfilter@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Strange problem with HTTPS POST (maybe) through router from Linux
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 08:46:10 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201006090846.10876.tvrtko@ursulin.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4C0EBA39.5070809@asyr.hopto.org>

On Tuesday 08 Jun 2010 22:46:33 Thanasis wrote:
> on 06/09/2010 12:03 AM Tvrtko Ursulin wrote the following:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Not really sure it is appropriate for this mailing list but I have a
> > hunch it could be netfilter related, or at least people who could know
> > something about it are likely to visit this place. :)
> >
> > I have a small home network behind a cheap ADSL router and a bizarre
> > problem where I am not getting responses from some web sites in some
> > situations. I suspect it is when a POST needs to go over the connection
> > because it is always when I need to log in somewhere over HTTPS. Also it
> > happens when a number of unrelated sites.
> >
> > This only happens from Linux! Just today I tried four different
> > distributions on two different machines and it is a total pattern. From
> > Windows it all works fine. Also I tried three or four browsers on Linux
> > and all behave exactly the same.
> >
> > I had a look at the iptables setup on the router (see below) and it looks
> > reasonable (at least short) to me, but it have been some years since I
> > last used it so my knowledge is a bit thin here.
> >
> > Or could it be that something has changed in recent kernels which could
> > make the router unhappy and lose packets?
> >
> > Anything more I could try to diagnose this? Any hints are appreciated!
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Tvrtko
> 
> This usually happens when the firewall(s) does not allow path MTU
> discovery because it is configured to filter/drop ICMP.
> Take a look here:
> http://www.znep.com/~marcs/mtu/
> http://www.netheaven.com/pmtu.html
> Try setting the MTU to a small value like:
> ifconfig eth0 mtu 1000
> and if that solves the problem, then fix your firewall(s)

You are right, MTU of 1000 indeed helps.

I have read both links and thought I understand what is happening there, but 
obviosuly not because I was expecting "echo 1 > 
/proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_no_pmtu_disc" to be another workaround but it is not in 
practice.

To fix the firewall I will have to talk to the manufacturer, there is currently 
no way that I can see to enable ICMP.

Tvrtko

 

      reply	other threads:[~2010-06-09  7:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-06-08 21:03 Strange problem with HTTPS POST (maybe) through router from Linux Tvrtko Ursulin
2010-06-08 21:36 ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-06-09  8:00   ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2010-06-09 10:02     ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-06-09 13:41       ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2010-06-09 15:02         ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-06-09 17:51           ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2010-06-09 22:03             ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2010-06-09 22:05               ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2010-06-08 21:46 ` Thanasis
2010-06-09  7:46   ` Tvrtko Ursulin [this message]

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