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From: Florian Mickler <florian@mickler.org>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@suse.de>
Cc: pm list <linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org>, markgross@thegnar.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] pm_qos: make update_request callable from interrupt context
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 08:54:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100609085427.3a819e35@schatten.dmk.lab> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1275998764.9953.1.camel@mulgrave.site>

On Tue, 08 Jun 2010 08:06:04 -0400
James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@suse.de> wrote:

> On Mon, 2010-06-07 at 21:13 -0700, mark gross wrote: 
> > On Mon, Jun 07, 2010 at 12:19:41PM -0400, James Bottomley wrote:
> > > On Mon, 2010-06-07 at 17:34 +0200, florian@mickler.org wrote:
> > > > We use the spinlocked notifier chain variant (struct
> > > > atomic_notifier_head) and add an __might_sleep() to the chain for
> > > > constraints which have non-atomic notifiers. This way we catch all
> > > > interrupt-context-update-sites at runtime.
> > > 
> > > Actually, I'm afraid we can't really call blocking notifiers through the
> > > atomic chain because we might end up with a contested chain call and a
> > > huge busy wait in the spinlock (especially if one of the notifiers is
> > > sleeping).
> > > 
> > > I think the pm_qos_object still needs the two notifier chains ... it's
> > > just that when set up, one must either fill an atomic or a blocking
> > > chain (leaving the other NULL).  We use the NULL to check to decide what
> > > chain to add notifiers to, and if the blocking chain is null, we refuse
> > > to add blocking notifiers (with a BUG). If the blocking chain is
> > > non-null, we register the might_sleep() notifier (actually, given the
> > > argument mismatch, you'll have to wrapper that).
> > > 
> > > James
> 
> > Can't we just requiere that all notifier callbacks be atomic context
> > safe and not fart around with 2 classes of notifiers?
> 
> Not unless someone rewrites the network notifier: it uses mutexes and is
> clearly assuming user context.  Perhaps they could simply be replaced
> with spinlocks but someone who understands the net code would would have
> to advise on this.
> 
> James
> 

What I thought about is to introduce a "scheduled_notifier_block" for
using sleeping notifiers on atomic_notifier_chain. That notifier block
would not execute the given function but use schedule_work() to
schedule it. I will try to shake up an implementation for that. 

Either way, my preferred approach would be to just use
schedule_work in the network notifier. 
I think that would be safe: Currently there is no synchronization
between pm_qos_update_request caller and the ieee listener. So an
schedule_work would change the timing, but not introduce an race that
wasn't there before. execute_in_process_context might not be a good
idea, because the spinlock will be held in case it's called from user
context.


I will do a patch for scheduling the network notifier and present it to
the relevant people, methinks.

Cheers,
Flo

p.s.: if my assumptions don't hold and it get's shot down by the
network people, I think James' two-queues-one-used solution is
sensible. 

  reply	other threads:[~2010-06-09  6:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-06-07 12:31 [PATCH] pm_qos: make update_request callable from interrupt context florian
2010-06-07 13:10 ` James Bottomley
2010-06-07 13:37   ` Alan Stern
2010-06-07 14:10   ` Florian Mickler
2010-06-07 14:20     ` James Bottomley
2010-06-07 15:27       ` [PATCH v2] " florian
2010-06-07 15:34       ` [PATCH v3] " florian
2010-06-07 16:19         ` James Bottomley
2010-06-08  4:13           ` mark gross
2010-06-08  8:09             ` Florian Mickler
2010-06-08 12:06             ` James Bottomley
2010-06-09  6:54               ` Florian Mickler [this message]
2010-06-09  7:13                 ` Florian Mickler
2010-06-09  7:18                   ` Florian Mickler

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