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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Isaku Yamahata <yamahata@valinux.co.jp>
Cc: stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com, jan.kiszka@siemens.com,
	allen.m.kay@intel.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	blauwirbel@gmail.com, kraxel@redhat.com, jean.guyader@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH 09/10] pci: set PCI multi-function bit appropriately.
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 17:59:45 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100618145945.GA26211@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100618133820.GF28863@valinux.co.jp>

On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 10:38:20PM +0900, Isaku Yamahata wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 03:44:04PM +0300, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > > If I understand correctly what this does, it goes over
> > > > other functions of the same device, and sets the MULTI_FUNCTION bit
> > > > for them if there's more than one function.
> > > > Instead, why don't we just set PCI_HEADER_TYPE_MULTI_FUNCTION
> > > > in relevant devices?
> > > 
> > > pci address, devfn ,is exported to users as addr property,
> > > so users can populate pci function(PCIDevice in qemu)
> > > at arbitrary devfn.
> > > It means each function(PCIDevice) don't know whether pci device
> > > (PCIDevice[8]) is multi function or not.
> > > So I chose to handle it in pci generic layer.
> > > 
> > > It can be argued that it's user operation fault and that
> > > the missing part is validation checks to catch such user errors.
> > 
> > Exactly. Another part that is missing is a way to hotplug
> > a multifunction device.
> 
> Yes, multi function hot plug is also on my wish list.
> 
> 
> > OTOH I think that hotplug of separate functions has no chance to work,
> > so users are better off getting an error.
> > 
> > > But I prefer more flexible and more user friendly way.
> > 
> > I think that most users would only add many functions
> > to a device as a result of an error.
> >
> > If we really want the ability to put unrelated devices
> > as functions in a single one, let's just add
> > a 'multifunction' qdev property, and validate that
> > it is set appropriately.
> 
> I think "unrelated" is policy. There is no obvious way to determine
> which functions can be in a same device.
> For example, popular chipset contains isa bridge, ide controller,
> usb controller, sound and modem in a single device as functions.
> It's up to hardware designer policy which functions are grouped into
> a device.
> 
> So qemu should be able to populate any function in a device,
> and leave such policy check to higher level tool like libvirt/virt-manager.

Fine. But tweaking one device's config when another one is added does not
lead to robust code.  Let's just require that users declare devices as
multifunction, and verify this.

-- 
MST

  reply	other threads:[~2010-06-18 15:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-06-17  6:15 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/10] pci: pci to pci bridge clean up and enhancement Isaku Yamahata
2010-06-17  6:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/10] pci_bridge: split out pci bridge code into pci_bridge.c from pci.c Isaku Yamahata
2010-06-17  6:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/10] qdev: export qdev_reset() for later use Isaku Yamahata
2010-06-17  7:01   ` Markus Armbruster
2010-06-17 10:05   ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-06-17  6:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/10] pci: fix pci_bus_reset() with 64bit BAR and several clean ups Isaku Yamahata
2010-06-17 10:58   ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-06-17  6:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/10] pci_bridge: introduce pci bridge layer Isaku Yamahata
2010-06-17  9:52   ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-06-17  6:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/10] pci bridge: add helper function for ssvid capability Isaku Yamahata
2010-06-17 10:01   ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-06-17  6:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/10] pci: eliminate work around in pci_device_reset() Isaku Yamahata
2010-06-17  6:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/10] pci: fix pci domain registering Isaku Yamahata
2010-06-17  6:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/10] pci: remove PCIDeviceInfo::header_type Isaku Yamahata
2010-06-17  6:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/10] pci: set PCI multi-function bit appropriately Isaku Yamahata
2010-06-17  9:37   ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-06-18  2:40     ` Isaku Yamahata
2010-06-18 12:44       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-06-18 13:38         ` Isaku Yamahata
2010-06-18 14:59           ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2010-06-18 15:22           ` Jamie Lokier
2010-06-20 10:03           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-06-17  6:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/10] pci: don't overwrite multi functio bit in pci header type Isaku Yamahata
2010-06-17  9:41   ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-06-17 10:02 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH 00/10] pci: pci to pci bridge clean up and enhancement Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-06-17 11:57   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-06-18  3:26     ` Isaku Yamahata
2010-06-18 12:46       ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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