From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
herbert@gondor.hengli.com.au, mst@redhat.com, frzhang@redhat.com,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, amwang@redhat.com, shemminger@vyatta.com,
mpm@selenic.com, paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/8] netpoll: Allow netpoll_setup/cleanup recursion
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 10:46:47 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100625084647.GA4914@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100624214204.a85c8ba2.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
* Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 21:27:13 -0700 (PDT) David Miller <davem@davemloft.net> wrote:
>
> > From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
> > Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 20:50:59 -0700
> >
> > > What happens if you want to actually *drop* a patch from net-next?
> > > Surely that happens?
> >
> > I've only respun the tree on two or three occasions and that was
> > because I made some significant error myself and screwed up the
> > GIT tree somehow.
> >
> > We've fixed much worse bugs than this one weeks after the changes
> > causing them went in, life goes on.
>
> Still sucks - this is a quite ugly drawback to how we're using git.
> I've hit bisection holes several times which held up the show.
> Sometimes you can make them go away by fiddling the .config, other
> times I've hunted down the fix and manually applied it for each
> iteration. It makes me feel all guilty each time I ask some poor sap
> to bisect a bug for us.
One solution would be, for really grave bugs that introduce a significant
window of bisection breakage, to add a special tag:
Fixes-Bug: SHA1
Which could then be parsed by a special variant of git bisect and which would
try to cherry-pick all Fixes-Bug commits into the bisection point.
But there are numerous disadvantages that:
- The bisection itself would be slower (maybe not a big issue for most
bisection sessions)
- Such cherry-picked trees wouldnt be precisely the same thing as the tree
as-it-was-there.
- Awkward combination bugs could ensue
- The cherry-pick may fail or may mis-apply things.
- If the Fixes-Bug tag is typoed or misconstrued then that might not be found
until someone tries a bisection and fails ... leading to awkward
add-the-tag-again-to-some-commit scenarios.
My gut feeling is that we really dont want to go there. As painful as
bisection breakages are, they are relatively rare (compared to regular
regressions), and the value of testing _that precise_ sha1 is a fundamental
thing - git bisect shouldnt interact and reorder fixes.
If a bug wasnt found sooner then it either didnt matter that much, or the tree
QA was bad. Neither of those factors forces a change in the development model.
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-06-25 8:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-06-10 12:40 [0/8] netpoll/bridge fixes Herbert Xu
2010-06-10 12:42 ` [PATCH 1/7] netpoll: Set npinfo to NULL even with ndo_netpoll_cleanup Herbert Xu
2010-06-10 12:42 ` [PATCH 2/7] bridge: Remove redundant npinfo NULL setting Herbert Xu
2010-06-10 12:42 ` [PATCH 3/7] netpoll: Fix RCU usage Herbert Xu
2010-06-10 12:42 ` [PATCH 4/7] netpoll: Add locking for netpoll_setup/cleanup Herbert Xu
2010-06-10 12:42 ` [PATCH 5/7] netpoll: Add ndo_netpoll_setup Herbert Xu
2010-06-10 12:42 ` [PATCH 6/7] netpoll: Allow netpoll_setup/cleanup recursion Herbert Xu
2010-06-10 12:42 ` [PATCH 7/7] bridge: Fix netpoll support Herbert Xu
2010-06-10 14:49 ` [0/8] netpoll/bridge fixes Stephen Hemminger
2010-06-10 21:56 ` Herbert Xu
2010-06-10 21:59 ` Stephen Hemminger
2010-06-10 22:48 ` Herbert Xu
2010-06-11 2:11 ` Herbert Xu
2010-06-11 2:12 ` [PATCH 1/8] netpoll: Set npinfo to NULL even with ndo_netpoll_cleanup Herbert Xu
2010-06-11 2:12 ` [PATCH 2/8] bridge: Remove redundant npinfo NULL setting Herbert Xu
2010-06-11 2:12 ` [PATCH 3/8] netpoll: Fix RCU usage Herbert Xu
2010-06-11 23:10 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-06-11 2:12 ` [PATCH 4/8] netpoll: Add locking for netpoll_setup/cleanup Herbert Xu
2010-06-11 2:12 ` [PATCH 5/8] netpoll: Add ndo_netpoll_setup Herbert Xu
2010-06-11 2:12 ` [PATCH 6/8] netpoll: Allow netpoll_setup/cleanup recursion Herbert Xu
2010-06-25 1:21 ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-25 3:01 ` Herbert Xu
2010-06-25 3:30 ` David Miller
2010-06-25 3:50 ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-25 4:27 ` David Miller
2010-06-25 4:42 ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-25 4:52 ` David Miller
2010-06-25 8:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-25 8:42 ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-25 9:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-25 8:46 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2010-06-25 10:08 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-11 2:12 ` [PATCH 7/8] netpoll: Add netpoll_tx_running Herbert Xu
2010-06-11 2:12 ` [PATCH 8/8] bridge: Fix netpoll support Herbert Xu
2010-06-11 3:08 ` fired a bug report on bugzilla.redhat.com Qianfeng Zhang
2010-06-15 10:28 ` [PATCH 8/8] bridge: Fix netpoll support Cong Wang
2010-06-17 10:38 ` Herbert Xu
2010-06-17 10:57 ` Cong Wang
2010-06-17 10:55 ` Herbert Xu
2010-06-18 3:06 ` Cong Wang
2010-06-11 20:03 ` [0/8] netpoll/bridge fixes Matt Mackall
2010-06-15 10:17 ` Cong Wang
2010-06-15 18:39 ` David Miller
2010-06-16 2:58 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-06-16 3:03 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-06-16 3:33 ` Herbert Xu
2010-06-16 4:47 ` David Miller
2010-06-16 23:02 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-06-17 10:18 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-06-17 21:26 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-06-16 6:16 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-06-16 5:08 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-06-16 6:21 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-06-16 16:01 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-07-19 10:19 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-07-19 10:53 ` Herbert Xu
2010-07-19 11:54 ` Herbert Xu
2010-07-19 16:05 ` David Miller
2010-07-19 16:52 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-07-19 20:35 ` David Miller
2010-07-20 5:26 ` Herbert Xu
2010-07-20 6:28 ` David Miller
2010-06-29 12:53 ` Yanko Kaneti
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