From: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge.hallyn-Z7WLFzj8eWMS+FvcfC7Uqw@public.gmane.org>
To: Albert Cahalan <acahalan-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Randy Dunlap
<randy.dunlap-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
Serge Hallyn
<serge.hallyn-Z7WLFzj8eWMS+FvcfC7Uqw@public.gmane.org>,
Arnd Bergmann <arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>,
Containers
<containers-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org>,
Nathan Lynch <nathanl-V7BBcbaFuwjMbYB6QlFGEg@public.gmane.org>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
Dan Smith <danms-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
Sukadev Bhattiprolu
<sukadev-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>,
Roland McGrath <roland-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 11/11][v15]: Document sys_eclone
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 08:12:17 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100706131217.GA6175@hallyn.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinr_2u-_0S2UvMDc7hOE_JOVIOjGtVo9Tzuk21E-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
Quoting Albert Cahalan (acahalan-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org):
> On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 12:18 AM, Oren Laadan <orenl-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > Finally, there have been objections before to allow pid-selection
> > by non-privileged process.
>
> Eh, I dearly hope that privileged processes are generally not
> even addressable (never mind creatable or accessable) from
> inside anything other than the top-level pid namespace.
If a privileged task was created in the top-level pid namespace,
then it is not addressable from inside a descendent pid namespace.
> Well, at least nothing should get more privilege than PID 1.
> This would include having UID values that PID 1 can switch
> to and having capability sets that PID 1 can switch to, and
> any other (SE Linux, AppArmor, etc.) things too.
IIUC the spirit of what you say here is what is intended by
the completion of the user namespaces. They'll ensure that
things like setuid-root and file capabilities limit privilege
to resources owned by the task which created the namespace.
That's why unprivileged pid ns unsharing won't be considered
until user namespaces are completed.
> Restarting a privileged process with a less privileged PID 1
> should result in privilege loss, and ought to require some sort of
> "--force" option to ensure the person accepts possible breakage.
Interesting point. Do we allow ptrace of a container init?
-serge
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-07-06 13:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-07-03 20:32 [PATCH 00/11][v15]: Implement eclone() system call Sukadev Bhattiprolu
[not found] ` <1278189164-28408-1-git-send-email-sukadev-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-03 20:32 ` [PATCH 01/11][v15]: Factor out code to allocate pidmap page Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2010-07-03 20:32 ` [PATCH 02/11][v15]: Have alloc_pidmap() return actual error code Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2010-07-03 20:32 ` [PATCH 03/11][v15]: Define set_pidmap() function Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2010-07-03 20:32 ` [PATCH 04/11][v15]: Add target_pids parameter to alloc_pid() Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2010-07-03 20:32 ` [PATCH 05/11][v15]: Add target_pids parameter to copy_process() Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2010-07-03 20:32 ` [PATCH 06/11][v15]: Check invalid clone flags Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2010-07-03 20:32 ` [PATCH 07/11][v15]: Define do_fork_with_pids() Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2010-07-03 20:32 ` [PATCH 08/11][v15]: Implement sys_eclone for x86 (32,64) Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2010-07-03 20:32 ` [PATCH 09/11][v15]: Implement sys_eclone for s390 Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2010-07-03 20:32 ` [PATCH 10/11][v15]: Implement sys_eclone for powerpc Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2010-07-03 20:32 ` [PATCH 11/11][v15]: Document sys_eclone Sukadev Bhattiprolu
[not found] ` <1278189164-28408-12-git-send-email-sukadev-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-03 23:41 ` Albert Cahalan
[not found] ` <AANLkTinM1jqG-9Mgbzft8bALGri7ZpzU9ZcPbMTe4fvW-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-04 23:39 ` Matt Helsley
[not found] ` <20100704233951.GK3338-52DBMbEzqgQ/wnmkkaCWp/UQ3DHhIser@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-05 0:45 ` Albert Cahalan
[not found] ` <AANLkTilTGvFTkjy8vi8N8msB7koEp0r7SnpPqJkVN4XA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-05 10:34 ` Arnd Bergmann
[not found] ` <201007051234.40943.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-06 22:25 ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
[not found] ` <20100706222554.GA7648-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-11 9:00 ` Albert Cahalan
[not found] ` <AANLkTilJMi8cXSlbG8towQFFAQpuuJjO9kDXWOfEu_EJ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-12 18:02 ` Matt Helsley
2010-07-12 21:54 ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
[not found] ` <20100712215456.GA23721-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-13 6:48 ` Albert Cahalan
[not found] ` <AANLkTikXDsv9CoV_EU48bunLD1wCh3w7HVdpo84rJtJg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-20 22:13 ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
[not found] ` <20100720221357.GA2440-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-21 19:51 ` Albert Cahalan
2010-07-05 4:10 ` H. Peter Anvin
[not found] ` <4C315B42.1020201-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-06 4:11 ` Albert Cahalan
[not found] ` <AANLkTimWBFbcRyf5tvA9Lork13gAJtCAdUg_ZS3PzbI0-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-06 15:14 ` Oren Laadan
2010-07-05 4:18 ` Oren Laadan
[not found] ` <4C315D2D.6000107-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-06 3:59 ` Albert Cahalan
[not found] ` <AANLkTinr_2u-_0S2UvMDc7hOE_JOVIOjGtVo9Tzuk21E-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-06 13:12 ` Serge E. Hallyn [this message]
2010-07-06 15:12 ` Oren Laadan
[not found] ` <4C3347CA.8060703-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-06 22:23 ` H. Peter Anvin
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